Contradictions Between the Book of Mormon and the Bible

Institute for Religious Research ^ | 1999 | Luke P. Wilson

[colorcountry]

LOL

You got me!

I was about to berate you as a spelling/grammar Nazi!

[restornu]

Oh Well! we can call you M&M hehehe!:)

[Invincibly Ignorant]

Just discovered this thread earlier today. I've converted to conservative Judaism after 30 years of non-denominational Christianity.

[colorcountry]

Okay, I'll bite. M&M???

[colorcountry]

...conservative Judaism ... I've never actually looked into it. Maybe you could start a thread where its dogma can be debated. It would be mighty interesting.

[Californiajones]

"You seem to be dragging in Greek concepts."

Well, I'll admit that I did study a lot about Plato, Aristotle and the ancient Greek philosophers in college, but so did Paul. That was why he was able to witness with such authority he had to the pagan GrecoRoman mindset. But if my Christianity is undergirded with anything, it most probably is the metaphysical poetry of John Donne, the libertine who became a great minister and the coolest Christian wordsmith ever, next to his good friend Shakespeare. Now Donne, author of such poems as "Batter My Heart, Three Personed God" and my favorite song of Christian romantic love "A Valediction Forbidding Mourning" was no Greek. He was a romantic, but a true Christian, sort of a pre Charismatic in an Elizabethan world.

My other pre Pentecostal bias is towards the pragmatic Christianity of Abraham Lincoln. He was surely no Greek, either. In fact, he once said that he "wished he was a good enough Christian to go to church regularly" and felt that the dreams prefiguring his own death coincided with the scripture of how Moses would not get to see the promised Land he so desired to see. Indeed, Lincoln was cut down on Good Friday and laid out in the East room on Easter Sunday, the weekend after the Palm Sunday surrender at Appomattox -- old Abe never got to cross his Jordan. But he inspires in me sort of a promised land mentality about our greatest country on earth, as I believe he was the greatest leader of men that ever lived outside the Bible

So, no, I don't think I have any Greek bias, other than it was no less than Aristotle who declared in his 'Categories" that evolution was ridiculous.

Bias only towards romance of the metaphysical Christian poets (Donne not Blake) and the suffering pragmatism of Abraham Lincoln. But neither of these pertain to a discussion of Joseph Smith.

[restornu]

You were Mormon and now Mennonite

[Californiajones]

So, you are waiting for the Temple to be rebuilt for the propitiation of world wide sin every year on Yom Kippor? Why would you forsake the lamb of God for the old covenant? Scary. But it would almost be worth it if your went whole hog kosher -- and were actively going to Jerusalem every year with an unblemished lamb to be slaughtered so your sins would be covered in sacrificial blood. OOps, forgot -- the curtain to the Temple's holiest of holies was ripped the moment Jesus died and the new covenant of God was established. So why again would anyone willingly take the keystone out of faith?

Sorry you caught me in a doctrinal moment. But really, why would you deny Christ for lukewarm conservative Judaism? Outward ritual does something for you that the Spirit does not?

[Invincibly Ignorant]

go pound sand

[colorcountry]

Oh Mormon and Mennonite....M&M

I guess you could also call me XM-NONDOM. Ex-Mormon, non-denominational and that would be more correct.

Even though I attend a church that is supported by the Mennonite Brethren, I would not consider myself Mennonite, I don't even know what Mennonite means.

I've also attended the Calvary Baptist Church, Assembly of God (Pentacostal), Catholic, Christian Worship Center and some others. That would manke me non-denominational. But feel free to call me what you will. :-)

[restornu]

You really come across like a miserable soul!

[Californiajones]

Yeah, sorry, I just don't understand Jesus-aversion, and I know too many Messianic Jews to be comfortable with someone switching the other way.

[Californiajones]

Please keep the personal attacks to yourself, as per FR rules.

[Californiajones]

I repeat an honest inquiry: "But really, why would you deny Christ for lukewarm conservative Judaism? Outward ritual does something for you that the Spirit does not?"

[Californiajones]

I'm chuckling to myself that an exChristian, now conservative Jew is posting on a Mormon vs. Christianity thread,

because the Mormons believe the American Indians are one of the lost tribes of Israel, i.e. Mormons believe that Indians are Jewish.

[colorcountry]

Speaking of American Indians being one of the lost tribes of Isreal....you might want to check out this new thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1559077/posts

[restornu]

CJ that is not an attack that is an observation of your unfriendly behavior!

[Californiajones]

Sweetie pie, "unfriendly behavior" would be if colorcountry, P Marlowe, Quester, Alamo Girl etc., did NOT tell you you were at odds with the Lord by being a Mormon. I am not being friendly to you if I see you might be stepping into an area of damnation and don't warn you about it.

I am being friendly to you by taking the time to unravel as much about Mormonism as I can with what I know of Him and of His Word.

[restornu]

I see you do take your self seriously!

[Californiajones]

"I see you do take your self seriously!"

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I hope everyone takes themselves seriously. Life is serious. So is eternity.