VILE “SOUTH PARK” EPISODE PULLED (Catholic League Pres. responds)

Catholic League ^ | December 30, 2005 | Bill Donohue

[68 grunt]

Jesus is Christ and is worshiped by all Christianity. He was not a needlebutt and understood about turning cheeks.

Mary, though respected by all Christianity, is only 'worshiped' by Catholics, almost as a oxymoron of the first commandment disclaimer of 'false gods'. Christians are secure that Christ is predominant but Catholics are insecure because their Mary mythology is threatened.

[FreeReign]

The producers didn't make the decision, Comedy Central did.

Comedy Central exercises its right to free speech by making the edecision not to continue to broadcast the rude episode.

Its a tough world out there. Tough luck!

[FreeReign]

Some FReepers don't understand the difference between censorship (which is done through government force) and voluntary market decisions (which is what apparently happened in this case).

Yes.

Liberals don't understand that difference. They believe that there are unalienable rights based on other people's property.

Thus there belief that a private communications company not broadcasting a program is censorship.

[FreeReign]

Jesus is Christ and is worshiped by all Christianity. He was not a needlebutt and understood about turning cheeks. Mary, though respected by all Christianity, is only 'worshiped' by Catholics, almost as a oxymoron of the first commandment disclaimer of 'false gods'. Christians are secure that Christ is predominant but Catholics are insecure because their Mary mythology is threatened.

True gods and false gods. Faith "A" is real, Faith "B" is not. Blah, blah, blah...

When talking about faith, a secure person has respect for other people's faith based beliefs. After all, we are talking about faith.

Look up the word faith in the dictionary and then you, grunt should offer proof why Faith "A" is deserving of more respect than Faith "B".

[68 grunt]

Faith is very personal and subjective, however, the First Commandment isn't;

Traditional translation (this example Aryeh Kaplan) is as follows: (20:3) "Do not have any gods before Me. Do not represent (such gods) by any carved statue or picture or anything in the heaven above or the earth below or in the water below the land. Do not bow down to or worship them."

Goodness, there seems to be a major violation of this commandment within the Catholic Church. Y'know, the holy trinity stuff ...

[HairOfTheDog]

Well, if this isn't an issue where everything relevant that should be said was said 500 posts ago, I don't know what is. :~D

[FreeReign]

Faith is very personal and subjective, however, the First Commandment isn't; Traditional translation (this example Aryeh Kaplan) is as follows: (20:3) "Do not have any gods before Me. Do not represent (such gods) by any carved statue or picture or anything in the heaven above or the earth below or in the water below the land. Do not bow down to or worship them." Goodness, there seems to be a major violation of this commandment within the Catholic Church. Y'know, the holy trinity stuff ...

Two points.

First, Catholics treat Mary as sacred and not as a diety.

Second, when any person of any religion or any sect of a religion worships a god, it is impossible prove why their believe in their god is less deserving of respect than your belief in your god.

Look up the words "faith", "proof", and "respect".

[68 grunt]

Whatever you say ...

[FreeReign]

Whatever you say ...

Grunt, a specialist on Catholicism, who thinks that Mary is a Catholic's God gives the old passive-aggressive, whatever-you-say acknowledgment that maybe she's not treated as such.

Gee, thanks!

[68 grunt]

I didn't realize I was dealing with someone so insecure, but its typical. You're welcome, btw.

[FreeReign]

I didn't realize I was dealing with someone so insecure, but its typical. You're welcome, btw.

Your judgement is lacking.

That's typical of -- you.

Enjoy the New Year.

[Invincibly Ignorant]

LOL! It was the top thread on the religion forum, where I do most of my posting. Time to grow up. And stop calling people "a$$ holes" on FR. It's going to wind up getting you banned, and then you'll be without a platform to cry about "censorship".

How's it goin hypocrite? Happy New Year.

[68 grunt]

Yeah, have a New Year, too.

[elfman2]

" Again, you are the one who brought up the hypothetical levels of blasphemy in your 66, not me. "

I see you’re right regarding Catholics view of sacred images . But I also see that there is a strict Catholic definition of blasphemy that does not include contempt toward people or objects in the Catholic Encylopedia on CD ROM : “While etymologically blasphemy may denote the derogation of the honour due to a creature as well as of that belonging to God, in its strict acceptation it is used only in the latter sense.”

Nothing in the South Park episode did that. Still, if you read through that page, you’ll see that simply claiming that God is an invention of man in blasphemy. Is that the blasphemy that you think government should outlaw or is it as I said earlier that blasphemy is a subjective term or at least an ambiguous term.

[Barnacle]

great another thread so the FR Holier than thou club can come out and demonize those that enjoy the show.

I don't think you're a demon for enjoying the show. A clueless idiot perhaps, but certainly not a demon. Rest assured however, that demons, and those who worship demons are gladdened by your perspective.

To some, nothing is sacred. And, they are the dupes of the Leftists and those who seek to tear down that which is good.

[presently no screen name]

You say - Free speech is tough, you gotta stick up for stuff you don't like from time to time, but it sure as hell beats the alternative, ask the burka clad women in Afghanistan.

I say - I will never stick up for 'stuff' that decays the moral fabric. You live in fear because you've been duped. "If we don't allow this, I'll be robbed of that". They sure got you!!

Whatever 'free speech' they throw your way, you accept. You seem to have no parameters, you live in a 'whatever' world.

Why do you protest so much? All you are missing is a re-run where you got a few laughs and witnessing a group that have taken a stand against slime, desecration and immorality. TV feeds off of shock value and keep pushing the envelope and there are enough people that need to be entertained and that keeps their 'pushers' laughing all the way to the bank. It's an easier path to not resist anything, just be submissive for entertainment sake to those who want to make a buck because they gave you a few laughs. It takes integrity and strong character to stand up against the worldly moguls who contribute to the moral decay of our country.

No one wouldn't have any speech, much less free speech without the grace of God. He gives us a free will and we are accountable for our choices. Should one do 'whatever they want’ because of their free will' and should one make right choices with their free will to take a stand and oppose those that run amok with their no parameter belief - in 'whatever the traffic will bear' mentality.

You may not feel you will be held accountable for your choices, your words, your deeds because of your beliefs but others know differently. And when the time comes, you can't plead ignorance. When it comes to truth, there really isn't a gray area. Right is right and wrong is wrong but this country, at the hands of 'no beliefs, free speech crowd', has slowly been twisting the right into wrong and the wrong into right with each push of the envelope for ....entertainment? money? evil to overtake good? It's in our schools, i.e.,sex education, condoms/abortion, on TV shows/commercials, in magazines.

What 'FREE SPEECH' bothers the 'free speech' and 'unbelief crowd'? The name of Jesus and 'Christ'mas. We are told "It may intimidate someone because of their belief". LOL Now, there's your laugh you feel deprived of. Why are they so intimidated by it? WHY are those self-righteous under the veil of so-called free speech, no belief crowd pushing their unbelief on me through the airwaves that don't belong to them exclusively? The 'free will/free speech' road of choice leads one into one's own destiny - it's a place where goodness and evil are forever separated. So in the end, goodness gets what goodness sought and fought after (you call them religious zealots) and evil gets what evil dished out. Each will get what each has sown.


All the words, the darts thrown out by the free will/free speech crowd to TRY to intimidate their opposition, i.e. those 'religious zealots', 'don't force your beliefs on me mantra' (when they do the same w/every vehicle they can), 'the turn the channel mantra' are so laughable when one considers the source and that source is intimidated by the name of Jesus, 'Christ'mas, prayer. Truly the line has been drawn - the Christ crowd and the anti-Christ crowd. The Christ crowd are never intimidated because it's in their belief system not to be - "The Truth will set you free" and that includes intimidation. That's a secret those will little or no belief just don't get because 'The Truth' isn't in them.

'Every knee will bow at the name of Jesus' - we may loose a few battles but we have already won the war against good vs. evil for 'It is Written'.

You get your laughs from watching push the envelope so-called ‘free speech’, I get my laughs from your ‘TRY’ at intimidation. So if you want to post a few laughs, have your best ‘TRY’.

[RobbyS]

Turn the Channel and get progressively worse stuff.

[sporkgoddess]

What I meant is that no one takes South Park seriously, but many people take the Da Vinci Code seriously.

I like to think that Mary and all of the saints have a sense of humor. So what if South Park makes fun of her? They make fun of God and Jesus, too. If you bitch about Mary, you should be bitching about them, too.

Seriously, you need to lighten up.

[zeeba neighba]

Totally agree.