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Fighting Tendencies (American critics of Pope Benedict XVI are very afraid.)
Ther American Prowler ^ | 12/1/2005 | Patrick O'Hannigan

Posted on 11/30/2005 11:26:56 PM PST by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 11/30/2005 11:26:58 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Lady In Blue; Canticle_of_Deborah; Siobhan; Maeve; NYer; Salvation; sandyeggo; Coleus

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2 posted on 11/30/2005 11:32:37 PM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: Ten Point Plan
You have libeled the Pope and Fr Mike in one post. Nice job loser.

How 'Gay' Activists Smeared Father Mychal Judge

4 posted on 11/30/2005 11:51:57 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (John 6: 31-69)
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Evidently, Admin Moderator agreed with you...got here too late to see what it was, but I auspect it was bad.

Interesting to me is that some people are starting to realize that the Church isn't going to go the way of churchLite, and they are not happy that we have leaders who actually BELIEVE in the teachings. And that the church is not going to validate their desire to live sinful lives. And that things really matter. And that some of us believe that God isn't a toy to validate their desire for spirituality, pat them on the head, and tell them what good little boys and girls they are.


5 posted on 12/01/2005 2:27:59 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: nickcarraway

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6 posted on 12/01/2005 5:48:54 AM PST by Tax-chick ("You don't HAVE to be a fat pervert to speak out about eating too much and lack of morals." ~ LG)
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To: nickcarraway

They need to take their problems up with The Boss and tell Him to change things:

Jesus told them...
...from the beginning of creation, 'God made them male and female.
For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother (and be joined to his wife),
and the two shall become one flesh.' So they are no longer two but one flesh.

I think He also mentioned those who are unable to marry by nature and that not everyone could understand that.


7 posted on 12/01/2005 5:55:00 AM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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8 posted on 12/01/2005 6:56:05 AM PST by NYer (“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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"As well-known Catholic blogger Amy Welborn dryly observes, "The problem is not, in simple terms, the homosexual priest. The problem is priests who don't believe what the Catholic Church teaches on sexuality, who don't preach it, who don't witness to it in the confessional, and who don't live it in their private lives." Moreover, she continues, "What is missing from Saletan's piece, of course, and what makes it a waste of time, is the lack of attention to Catholic teaching on sexuality, and what that means."


9 posted on 12/01/2005 7:01:21 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (It really, truly is a "religion of peace", and the jihadistinian rioters in France prove it!)
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To: Convert from ECUSA
This bears repeating once more:

The problem is priests who don't believe what the Catholic Church teaches on sexuality, who don't preach it, who don't witness to it in the confessional, and who don't live it in their private lives.
10 posted on 12/01/2005 7:02:34 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Convert from ECUSA
he problem is priests who don't believe what the Catholic Church teaches on sexuality, who don't preach it, who don't witness to it in the confessional, and who don't live it in their private lives.

And that applies to more than just homosexual perversion ... it applies to masturbation, to contraception, and to the heinous evil of abortion.

11 posted on 12/01/2005 7:06:54 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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Exactly!


12 posted on 12/01/2005 7:10:05 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (It really, truly is a "religion of peace", and the jihadistinian rioters in France prove it!)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Absolutely.


13 posted on 12/01/2005 7:12:09 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: nickcarraway

I decided I would be George W. Bush like and ignore all the raving critics of the Vatican Instruction like Sullivan -- they're not going to address the issue constructively or with a respect for what the Church teaches, they're just going to shrilly cry out the usual gay activist talking points and name calling. I will be able to keep my equanimity and just continue quietly to worship and pray and thank God for the great pastor the Lord has given us in Pope Benedict.


14 posted on 12/01/2005 7:20:12 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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>> New York's Fr. Mychal Judge, who was killed by falling debris while comforting others in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks on 9/11/01.<<

This whole Fr. Mychal Judge thing really bothers me. Fr. Judge may have been a priest but is anyone saying that if he wasn't that he would not have been right in there attempting to save people?

Perhaps being a chaplin put him in the right place at the wrong time, but he would have been no less a hero if he had been just a dude on the street running in to save a person.

Gay (in doubt) or not, he was a hero. No one should use him as a banner for sexuality.


15 posted on 12/01/2005 7:21:12 AM PST by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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A wise decision...There is going to be whining going on for awhile, I suspect.


16 posted on 12/01/2005 7:24:12 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: nickcarraway
Over at Catholic World News, Diogenes has this to say:

Many bishops (and their fellow travelers) have been operating for years in opposition to long-standing Church discipline, anticipating that the discipline would change. It hasn't -- and what we see now is the flailing of these men as they try to salvage their authority while looking for room to maneuver (the parallel with clergy who anticipated approval of contraception prior to Humanae vitae is obvious).

This is one of the best and most succinct summaries of all the equivocating from the likes of Skylstad, Clark, McCarrick et al., which I have seen.

17 posted on 12/01/2005 7:31:18 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: Convert from ECUSA

Amen!


18 posted on 12/01/2005 10:28:07 AM PST by IMRight
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

As a "gay" Catholic, I completely agree with the Church's stance on homosexuality. Though most if not all of you have not had the experience of homosexuality (count your blessings), I have, and it has made me a better person, for it has given me the opportunity to witness the battle between good and evil in most vivid and horrifying way. I beleive that being "gay" has given me a perspective on what it means to suffer for Christ. Though its a constant battle against this temptation, as for any battle a Christian soldier must fight, it is the ultimate victory that matters and is most sweet.


19 posted on 12/01/2005 8:29:16 PM PST by The Cuban
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God bless you!


20 posted on 12/01/2005 8:32:21 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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