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Posted on 11/21/2005 1:38:26 PM PST by el_chupacabra
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To: Dominick
A wisp of a accusation?Sure Dominick, people, especially priests with friends in high places get arrested all the time on just a "wisp" of an accusation.
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posted on
11/22/2005 5:40:55 PM PST
by
murphE
(These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
To: marshmallow
Being somewhat shy and reserved, I never felt comfortable with all the arm-waving and group hugs No see, at the time you probably thought your shyness was something negative, when actually it was a great grace! You probably escaped a lot of insanity.
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posted on
11/22/2005 5:43:11 PM PST
by
murphE
(These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
To: murphE
Sure Dominick, people, especially priests with friends in high places get arrested all the time on just a "wisp" of an accusation.
This guy hardly had friends in high places. He dodged a Vatican inquiry, that was rightly made, and now is felled on an accusation that was made from "recovered memories" by a gay man. Of course a gay man has no ulterior motives.
That still did not answer my question, what is the correct amount of suspicion that should cause a man to be removed?
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posted on
11/22/2005 5:51:57 PM PST
by
Dominick
("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
To: Dominick
what is the correct amount of suspicion that should cause a man to be removed?Any amount lest the faithful be scandalized, especially with this priest who has contact with so many children.
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posted on
11/22/2005 6:01:18 PM PST
by
murphE
(These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
To: Dominick
This goes further than the memories of one gay man. The article states that the plaintiff's attorney has 50 witnesses who will be called. We shall see. There are also multiple other accusers who witnessed behavior, which if not outright illegal, was certainly unbecoming and unethical for a Catholic priest.
The correct course of action here is for the priest to be put in "time out" while the legal proceedings take their course.
To: murphE
I have no doubt that not participating in the Charismatic Renewal saved me considerable pain.
That was my point. All those whom I knew and who participated, subsequently left the Church. There was a total superficiality associated with it. Most of those involved were simply looking for another "high". Another "experience". There was no underlying appreciation of the sacrificial nature of the Mass and of our Redemption. Jesus was simply another "trip".
As that Life Teen poster at the link which you provided said; "Get more out of the Mass". Totally wrong idea. "Getting something out of it" is the catch cry of the bored, self-absorbed, worldly man.
Once the "high" wore off, my contemporaries simply moved on to the next "big thing" in order to get their "charge".
To: murphE
what is the correct amount of suspicion that should cause a man to be removed?
Any amount lest the faithful be scandalized, especially with this priest who has contact with so many children.
Thats a pretty simple standard, perhaps people can accuse anyone to get rid of them, n'cest pas?
Fifty witnesses doesn't sound right either. Perhaps we shall see.
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posted on
11/22/2005 8:28:18 PM PST
by
Dominick
("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
To: Dominick
C'mon Dominick, did you see what he did in that "mass"? That alone should be enough to throw him out on his ear.
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posted on
11/22/2005 8:52:05 PM PST
by
murphE
(These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
To: murphE
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posted on
11/29/2005 1:23:52 PM PST
by
Gillibrand
(Gillibrand)
To: wideawake
I agree with you that these claims need to be looked at carefully, and the accused does have the right to be presumed innocent. But at the moment, who would find any cleric innocent on such charges?
The issue of monetary compensation is definitely muddling these abuse claims. There is a case against the Brothers of St John of God, in New Zealand, where a plaintiff later admitted that he was lying - after having been awarded compensation.
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