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Disciples of Christ to Israel: Drop dead
Jerusalem Post ^ | 8/7/5 | SUSAN BLATT

Posted on 08/07/2005 9:24:34 PM PDT by SmithL

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To: tenn2005
Look, any church group that begins with the Campbell/Stone movement (we are speaking of historical lineage here, not necessarily all the elements of theology, and the subtle nuances of Restorationism), is PART of what I'm talking about.

I can't imagine a Church of Christ (Non-instrumental) that is Not part of this historical lineage. There are, on the other hand, totally different groups that call themselves "Church of Christ".

81 posted on 08/11/2005 9:00:00 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: muawiyah

You continue to show your ingnorance regarding the current teachings of the Church of Christ. Campbell, Stone and others did indeed advocate the return to simple New Testament Christianity but the others that you group with the Church of Christ deviated from this course a number of years back and now have no affiliation with the current Churches of Christ.


82 posted on 08/11/2005 9:06:49 PM PDT by tenn2005 (Birth is mearly an event; it is the path walked that becomes one's life.)
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To: tenn2005
You might also be confounding the expressed purposes of a particular Church of Christ (non-instrumental) with the beliefs of the individual members ~ many people maintain a relationship with a church that's strayed from their own standards simply because of family and historical ties.

Odds are a survey of DoC, independent Christian, and Church of Christ (non-instrumental) congregations will find a surprising commonality of beliefs across a quite predictable spectrum.

I can't say for those other Church of Christ operations that are not "non-instrumental". I've always thought of most of them as pretty much the same as independent Methodist operations ~ we have one in the area with infant baptism, and that's definitely outside what the Christian church does.

83 posted on 08/11/2005 9:08:17 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: muawiyah

That are a number of differences between the Church of Christ and the group that you continue to want to associate them with. You need to learn these differences is you are going to expound on the subject.


84 posted on 08/11/2005 9:11:03 PM PDT by tenn2005 (Birth is mearly an event; it is the path walked that becomes one's life.)
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Are we even discussing the same people? The Church of Christ (non-instrumental) will ALWAYS have that "(non-instrumental)" appellation AFTER the name.

The independent Christian Church congregations that were formerly part of the DoC may have their own conference, but there were always independent Christian Church congregations that regularly swapped members with the DoC (for any variety of reasons).

85 posted on 08/11/2005 9:11:27 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: muawiyah

It is true that the Church of Christ does not use instrumental music in the worship service but that is not the only distinguishing characteristic. Thenchurch of Christ does not practice infant baptism. Again, you need to learn more about the Church of Christ if you are going to claim a knowledge of it and its beliefs.


86 posted on 08/11/2005 9:15:43 PM PDT by tenn2005 (Birth is mearly an event; it is the path walked that becomes one's life.)
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To: SmithL

"Mr. President, tear down that wall."

If only Reagan could be here.

One wall goes down, another one goes up.

This apartheid wall, too, won't last long. Mark my words.


87 posted on 08/11/2005 9:15:48 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences.)
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To: tenn2005
There is simply more than one "type" of church calling itself "Church of Christ".

You guys do not have a monopoly on the title.

BTW, the independent Christian Church I belonged to as a child always had a pot-luck dinner EACH AND EVERY FRIDAY EVENING. Their theological standard was that this was required because Christ fed the multitude. Your branch probably thinks buildings are prohibited because they are not specifically mentioned, which would require, of course, that the potluck supper beheld lakeside. Right?

More recently I've attended a DoC that came about as a result of a Church of Christ (non-instrumental) congregation merging with a Southern Baptist church whose members were first relocated to New England (on defense work) and then to this area (again on defense work). The church is laid out like a typical Church of Christ.

Sure be confusing to someone who "didn't know".

Odds are that ANY congregation EVER affiliated in any way with Stone or Campbell is going to give you answers pretty typical of the others.

88 posted on 08/11/2005 9:25:31 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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Oh, yes, and as I've learned over the years, one of the typical answers will be that the "other guys" in that other "supposed Christian church" probably have their theology all wrong!

Still, unlike many other affiliations, denominations and groups, odds are none would say the other guys are "going to Hell". If anything, that's a unifying belief that fairly well defines all the movement churches.

89 posted on 08/11/2005 9:28:21 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: muawiyah

The Campbell, stone movement took place in the mid 1800's. The Church of Christ predates that by about 1800 years. Check it out in Romans 16:16. I don't know what movements you may be familiar with, but they are evidently not the Church of Christ that I am affiliated with. Please do not attempt to assign us to a particular denominational theology.


90 posted on 08/11/2005 9:31:47 PM PDT by tenn2005 (Birth is mearly an event; it is the path walked that becomes one's life.)
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To: tenn2005
Hey, that's the one ~ the "church" that's not a denomination.

You know there are folks in the independent Christian Church as well as the Disciples of Christ who also hold to the position that they do not constitute a denomination ~ 's a fact!

I've got an old pre-Civil War Baptist church history for a congregation in Southern Indiana (which was filled to the brim with Abolitionists) and they refered to your brand, my brand, and the other Christian church brands all as "an alleged Christian church".

The Baptists knew who they were dealing with, Fur Shur.

91 posted on 08/12/2005 6:27:07 AM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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