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Catholic Church Conservation ^ | 16/07/2005 | Gillibrand

Posted on 07/19/2005 10:25:36 AM PDT by Gillibrand

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Many photographs of an exhibition which turns a Brussels Church into a modern art happening.
1 posted on 07/19/2005 10:25:37 AM PDT by Gillibrand
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To: Gillibrand

That space hasn't been deconsecrated? It's still used as a worship space? Unbelievable. I mean, its one thing to close a parish church and sell the building after deconsecration, to be used as the new owner sees fit. It's quite another to lease space within a functional parish church for the exhibition of "art" in grossly inappropriate ways and places. Good God in His Heaven.

Tell me I'm missing something here. Or is Europe really this far gone?


2 posted on 07/19/2005 10:37:06 AM PDT by borkrules
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; broadsword; NYer; Salvation; sandyeggo; american colleen; ...
Catholic ping!
(Please check out the link above for the sacrilege that is mentioned in the thread.)
3 posted on 07/19/2005 10:43:46 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Gillibrand
To hell with this sh-t!

Like I tell my children over and over again: modern art is pure garbage. Since we're homeschooling, no one will be able to tell them that sh-t is Shinola.

4 posted on 07/19/2005 10:50:24 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Pyro7480
Eeep! That is creepy, creepy stuff.

And it is deliberately designed to interact with the church, the altars, and the memorials. So it's deliberate sacrilege.

Do we KNOW that the archbishop knows about this?

5 posted on 07/19/2005 10:52:37 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Gillibrand
Hate to be flippant, but don't they look like some of the stuff from a scene in the Exorcist movie? I mean the one where the church is desecrated.
6 posted on 07/19/2005 10:54:24 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Gillibrand

They're creepy and they're spooky, mysterious and kooky ...


8 posted on 07/19/2005 11:05:17 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: Gillibrand
Maybe you guys can help out a clueless Protestant. I read the article...this is a working church, owned by the RCC. They still offer the mass once a month. So, who could have authorized this abomination? It has to be someone in authority in the church, right? These "artists" cannot have just come in off the street and set up their filth without permission?

If this were my church, I'd be there extra early next Sunday with a sledgehammer and a dumpster.

9 posted on 07/19/2005 11:11:30 AM PDT by jboot (Faith is not a work)
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To: borkrules

The Church has not been deconsecrated. The Blessed Sacrament is still reserved.


10 posted on 07/19/2005 11:16:45 AM PDT by Gillibrand (Gillibrand)
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To: Gillibrand; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...

BACK


FRONT

11 posted on 07/19/2005 11:17:05 AM PDT by NYer ("Each person is meant to exist. Each person is God's own idea." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: Gillibrand
Man, I thought nobody at MY church went to confession very often . . .

Somebody needs to get after Abp. Daneels and get the lid put on this sacrilege (and excommunicate the artists and their sponsors to boot.)

12 posted on 07/19/2005 11:29:13 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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Do we KNOW that the archbishop knows about this?

Well, when the Archbishop happens to be none other than the infamous Cardinal Daneels....enough said.

Diocese of Brussels, unfortunately, like most of the Low Countries in general has been a hotbed of both political and ecclesiastical liberalism/modernism for a long time.


13 posted on 07/19/2005 11:34:26 AM PDT by jrny (Oremus pro Pontifice nostro Benedicto Decimo Sexto.)
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To: Pyro7480

perverts


14 posted on 07/19/2005 12:01:09 PM PDT by johnb2004
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To: jrny

The Curé of the Church was thanked at the opening ceremony for being such a great art lover!!!! He was almost certainly present; I think he can be identified in the pictures of this ceremony, wearing sandals, but maybe not. He is certainly not the type to wear a Roman collar.


15 posted on 07/19/2005 12:13:00 PM PDT by Gillibrand (Gillibrand)
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To: Gillibrand

To: Cardinal Daneels and the Cure
From: Jesus Christ
Date: July 19, 2005
RE: My Church

Domus mea domus orationis vocabitur, sed vos fecistis speluncam latronum.

Translation:
My house shall be called a house of prayer, but you have made it a den of thieves.



16 posted on 07/19/2005 12:29:33 PM PDT by jrny (Oremus pro Pontifice nostro Benedicto Decimo Sexto.)
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To: jrny
How's this for an example?

And he [Ezechias] said to them: Hear me, ye Levites, and be sanctified, purify the house of the Lord the God of your fathers, and take away all filth out of the sanctuary (2 Paralipomenon (Chronicles) 29:5).

17 posted on 07/19/2005 12:42:15 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: jrny
Also,

Lift up thy hands against their pride unto the end; see what things the enemy hath done wickedly in the sanctuary (Psalm 73 (74 in NAB): 3).

18 posted on 07/19/2005 12:44:42 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Gillibrand

Outrageous!!!


19 posted on 07/19/2005 12:54:56 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: Gillibrand
Your photos reminded me of an experience which I had in the '80s. I was kneeling in a Cathedral (not in the US) which had been recently vandalized.....excuse me.....brought up to date with current liturgical norms, when in walked the monsignor with a group of high school kids- probably around 9th or 10th graders.

After proudly acquainting the kids with all the alterations which had been done to what had obviously been a very beautiful church, the monsignor proceeded to ask the following question: "what is the most important part of this Church?"

Up went the hands.

"The tabernacle", said one kid.

"Nope", said the monsignor.

"The crucifix", said a second.

"Wrong", said the priest.

Other answers were then forthcoming. "The statues", "the holy water fonts", "the altar" among others, were all proffered. All incorrect.

Finally, after just about everything else had been eliminated, one kid raised his hand and said "the pews".

"Yessssss!!!" said the monsignor. "You are correct." "Why?" he asked .....and answering his own question went on to say "......because that's where the people sit".

I was remined of this incident because it seems to me that there are two fundamentally opposing views of what a Church is. The traditional view is that the focus should be on Jesus but the modernist tendency is to place it on ourselves. To make it all about us. When this happens, it gives rise to insanity like that in the Brussels Church which you highlight, where the focus is on self-indulgent examples of modern art and also in the example above of the whacky monsignor who thinks that the pews are more important than the tabernacle. Both are due to the removal of Jesus from the place of honor and replacing him with man and his works of "art".

This leads inevitably to sterility, ugliness and sacrilege.

The trash in the Brussels Church should either be in a dumpster or a modern art gallery, depending on your point-of-view, but not in a Church.

20 posted on 07/19/2005 1:05:40 PM PDT by marshmallow
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