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The Goodness and the Severity of God
Grace To You ^ | June 20, 2005 | John MacArthur

Posted on 06/20/2005 4:38:37 AM PDT by HarleyD

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To: HarleyD

***Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God***

Rock solid.

The Lord brought this verse to my attention very forcefully one time and it has made a lasting impression on me.

We often want to behold God's goodness - but not His severity. I'd like to see "All the Threats of the Bible" to go along with "All the Promises of the Bible"! :)


BTW - My little bro is on a cruise with MacArthur this week.


21 posted on 06/20/2005 8:53:38 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: jkl1122
***I agree, but how does this differ with what I said?***

I'm not sure it does Mr.jkl1122! - you were in on the conversation so I included you for courtesy.
22 posted on 06/20/2005 8:55:16 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Actually, you sent it to only me. That is why I was confused.


23 posted on 06/20/2005 8:55:55 AM PDT by jkl1122
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To: jkl1122; stuartcr

Ouch! Your right - I'll ping stuartcr!

Pinging stuartcr!

See post #18
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1426483/posts?page=18#18


24 posted on 06/20/2005 8:58:16 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: jkl1122

Yes there is, I do it all the time...I am alive, and I am thankful to God for it.


25 posted on 06/20/2005 9:03:49 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

We obviously believe differently.


26 posted on 06/20/2005 9:05:00 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr

***We obviously believe differently.***

Do Christ's words hold no authority for you?


27 posted on 06/20/2005 9:07:01 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: stuartcr

How do you worship God? How do you know it is pleasing to Him?


28 posted on 06/20/2005 9:11:57 AM PDT by jkl1122
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Yes, I believe that not all persons hear them the same.


29 posted on 06/20/2005 9:36:58 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: jkl1122

The details are personal, but I will say that I pray and am thankful for what I have.

I don't believe anyone can truly know that. How would you know if it is not?


30 posted on 06/20/2005 9:40:08 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr

God has revealed to us how we should become His children and how we are to worship Him. If we are not in sync with the Word of God, then we are not pleasing Him.


31 posted on 06/20/2005 9:41:52 AM PDT by jkl1122
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To: jkl1122

As I said, I believe God speaks/communicates differently with all of us. Since we do not believe the same, then I obviously believe this is as God wants it. If/when God wants us all to believe the same, I'm sure we will.


32 posted on 06/20/2005 9:47:29 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr

You are free to believe what you want to believe, but you have presented no reasonable explanation for it. How do you know God is communicating with you, if you have no way of knowing how He communicates with His creation?


33 posted on 06/20/2005 9:50:42 AM PDT by jkl1122
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To: stuartcr; jkl1122

***Since we do not believe the same, then I obviously believe this is as God wants it.***

The rape of young children is also something that occurs in our world. Based on your reasoning above, would you say that this is also something that God wants to occur?


34 posted on 06/20/2005 9:53:29 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Along with everything else in the universe that happens, yes, otherwise, I don't believe it can happen.


35 posted on 06/20/2005 9:58:16 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: jkl1122

I don't believe there is, nor is there a need for, a reasonable explanation when talking about God and our beliefs.

As I said before, it is self-evident to me. How do you know when God communicates with you?


36 posted on 06/20/2005 10:00:41 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr

God has revealed His will to mankind through His Word, which is the Bible. That is His means of communication today.


37 posted on 06/20/2005 10:03:57 AM PDT by jkl1122
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To: jkl1122

For you, and many others, I'm sure it is, but for myself, and many others, it isn't.


38 posted on 06/20/2005 10:16:11 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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It is for everyone. You have nothing to back up your beliefs, while I, as a Christian, have the revealed Word of God that has existed in written form for nearly 2000 years. You claim to serve an omnipotent god, and yet claim that he has given mankind no way of knowing exactly how to serve him. The god you serve is not the God that I serve.


39 posted on 06/20/2005 10:24:30 AM PDT by jkl1122
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To: stuartcr

***Along with everything else in the universe that happens, yes, otherwise, I don't believe it can happen.***

So you are saying that you believe that God WANTS the rape, torture, beating, starvation etc. of young children to occur?

If so then your conception of God is a monster (and ultimately you have no way of telling right from wrong). This is not the God of the Bible.



***otherwise, I don't believe it can happen.***

You don't distinguish between what God wants as opposed to what he allows?????


40 posted on 06/20/2005 10:28:41 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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