Posted on 06/20/2005 4:38:37 AM PDT by HarleyD
It does seem to all go back to the bible. If one believes in the bible as you do, then I'm sure. But not all believe in the bible as you do...and there is just no way of proving any of this. It would take a belief that I do not have in me, to believe in the bible as you do. I cannot force myself to believe.
How does being the creator, make God by definition just? As I stated earlier, I believe God is above what we consider justice.
Where do we, as humans, get our idea of justice?
We shall see, and this forum will be one of the first places I announce it.
Who isn't fallen?
I'll have to answer it tomorrow, as I'm am late leaving already. You will answer my questions, won't you?
Since our sense of justice seems to change with society and periods in history, I guess, it's one of those self-evident things...unless you are a lawmaker.
Your tagline above really has me puzzled.
Why do you believe that? On what do you base that statement?
Everyone
I must leave, I will be back tomorrow.
On everything I have said here today. All is as God intends it to be...
I will be back tomorrow.
Have you looked around lately?
Okay.
If God wills. 8~)
Dr. E, stuart does not believe in the concept of sin.
How about "naughtiness?"
Naughtiness to be regarded as naughtiness would have to be defined as naughtiness by the community. So what is naughty to you and I may not be naughty to stuart and vise versa, I think. Society being the determiner of naughtiness.
God designed us exactly the way He wanted us.
"If David could not do otherwise, then where was his freedom of choice?"
Who said we are "free" to choose. We make choices. But our choices are within God-defined limits. David made his choice based upon God's perfect plan. It wasn't a "free" choice. It was a choice. "Freedom" is a error the church believes today.
Since I believe that God communicates with us as individuals, then yes, I believe that worship is as the individual prescribes it.
Please explain the basis for your belief that God communicates with us as individuals. And it being "self-evident" is not a valid basis.
OK, I went back to #85...are you asking me the same questions that the author asked?
If so, then I will say that I do not believe there are any fixed standards of human behavior that apply to all of mankind, I believe the standards are dependent on the society, it's time in history, geographic location, the individual, and a lot of other variables.
I determine what is right and wrong by my God-given conscience and societies mores.
I do not know what has been revealed to others.
If not, what are the questions?
Yes, and I believe that men act as men..no one has fallen and no one has risen.
Of course, if you compare man to something which he is not...like an angel or God, then of course he has fallen...or risen if compared to an animal.
It seems to depend on one's reference.
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