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"They "Served" My Lord... Like An Appetizer:" Liturgical Abuse at Villanova U.
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| 6/2/2005
| Pyro7480
Posted on 06/02/2005 11:17:53 AM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: sempertrad
It is incredibly humbling isn't it? My priest this week talked about accepting all of our crosses patiently, and in eternity we'll realize they weren't crosses at all, just photographs of crosses. Compared to the martyrs, mine are crayon drawings I think.
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posted on
06/07/2005 8:46:55 PM PDT
by
murphE
(These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
To: sempertrad
All of these acts demonstrate and reinforce the Real Presence. They clearly express our belief that Christ is present even in the smallest Particle and therefore all possible measures are taken to protect Him from every possible insult/injury.
Why isn't the cup covered, then? Certainly there is a significant amount of evaporation that occurs from the open cup (and from the Host to a lesser extent.) The Blood of Christ is then deposited everywhere- on the floor to be trampled, out the door, inhaled into nasal cavities, etc. It seems to me this could be dealt with using a closed system- similar to a child's "sippy-cup", or perhaps a straw.
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posted on
06/07/2005 9:10:20 PM PDT
by
armydoc
To: armydoc
Why isn't the cup covered, then?
It is. The Chalice is covered by the pall.
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posted on
06/08/2005 8:23:59 AM PDT
by
sempertrad
("I'm feeling fair today; one notch below mediocre" - My Husband)
To: sempertrad
It is. The Chalice is covered by the pall.
Not during the time of distribution, which can be considerable in a large parish.
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posted on
06/08/2005 9:15:15 AM PDT
by
armydoc
To: armydoc
The Chalice is not distributed to the faithful at the Traditional Mass. Traditional Catholics believe that Christ is present entirely in the Host.
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posted on
06/08/2005 10:49:14 AM PDT
by
sempertrad
("I'm feeling fair today; one notch below mediocre" - My Husband)
To: Rutles4Ever
What does Thomas Aquinas have to do with the price of tea in China? So he said it "should" be distributed by consecrated hands. So what? The Lord presents Himself as the paschal sacrifice and you'd reject Him because you can't receive Him from someone wearing the collar?
That's tragic.
That's not tragic - that's Catholic!
Why Communion in the Hand is Forbidden
http://www.fatimacrusader.com/cr28/cr28pg34.asp
To: jrny
I thought about doing that right after the Mass. Do you think he will do anything about it though? With respect, your question is irrelevant.
Send the pictures. You have an absolute, God-given right, to the Mass being offered properly. IMHO, you have duty to complain to the local Bishop (in this instance, Justin Cardinal Rigali) if that right is being trampled.
If he does nothing, it's on his soul.
If you do noting, it's on your soul.
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posted on
06/15/2005 9:27:49 AM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: netmilsmom
The Parish has a Pro-life ministry. The Parish does NOT have a Justice and Peace ministry.
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posted on
06/15/2005 10:30:11 AM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: ArrogantBustard; Pyro7480
I was not the one who asked that question. Pyro did.
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posted on
06/15/2005 11:10:43 AM PDT
by
jrny
(Oremus pro Pontifice nostro Benedicto Decimo Sexto.)
To: jrny; Pyro7480
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posted on
06/15/2005 11:18:38 AM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: Pyro7480
Fortunately, as the pre-vatican faithful know, Transubstantiation does not occur in the Novus Ordo. Therefore they can issue the wafer in the hand, pass it down the pews or mail it to the parishoners home. NO! Sacrilege occurs.
Prayers should be RESERVED for Pope Benedict XVI, that he will have the Faith & Courage to
1) demand the RETURN of the "Holy Sacrifice of the Mass" (Tridentine), so that we will again be able to receive the TRUE Body & Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
2)Publicly Consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of the Blessed Mother together with all the Bishops at the same hour of the same day to provide as SHE has promised, temporary peace to the world.
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posted on
06/15/2005 5:24:06 PM PDT
by
tonygrim
(Traditional Catholic)
To: tonygrim
I'm guessing by your comments, and by your recent arrival, that you found out about this website thread through the Fatima.org newsletter. I actually disagree with your assessment that transubstantiation does not occur in the New Mass. As long as the rubrics are kept to a bare minimum, Our Lord is present. Otherwise, the hours I've spent in Eucharistic adoration have been for naught (I was born in 1980.).
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posted on
06/15/2005 8:36:53 PM PDT
by
Pyro7480
("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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