Posted on 05/13/2005 9:57:43 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
Facts are facts. I have had a personal interaction with Levada. My opinion of him is neither rash nor in error.
To the contrary, he is shaping up to be worse than I suspected.
I once had a personal interaction with Bernard Cardinal Law... he was not as I expected him to be. In fact, I came away very humbled. My opinon of him had been rash and in error.
Please provide the written evidence, then.
205. How does a Catholic sin against faith?A Catholic sins against faith by apostasy, heresy, indifferentism, and by taking part in non-Catholic worship.
Apostasy means completely leaving the faith of Christ to profess a non-Christian religion or none at all.
Heresy is a deliberate denial of one or more of the truths of faith by which one professes to be a Christian.
Straight from the St. Joseph Baltimore Catechism, with notes by Fr. Bennet, C.P. So, what non-Christian religion has Levada taken up? Is he a Jew, a Muslim, or what?
Levada concelebrated Mass with a Lutheran minister.
Lutheran ministers can't offer Mass, and there's no real proof that Levada did any such thing.
Anyway, you didn't answer my question. What non-Christian religion has Abp. Levada embraced, so that you would be justified in calling him an apostate? Is he a Jew, a Muslim, or what?
Apparently he believes in some New Age, pagan type thing. Did you see the invocation the four directions on his website? Not to mention his support of the URI, aka, one world religion. I'd call that an abandonment of the Catholic Faith.
As a flame always rises upwards, especially if the burning matter is poked and turned, so the heart of a vain man cannot become humble. As soon as you say something to him for his own good, his heart exalts itself more and more; if he is denounced and amonished, he argues heatedly; if he is praised and welcomed, he puffs himself up still more.
(St. Simeon the New Theologian)It is only by hammer blows that God manages to humble us, no matter how good our native disposition. (St. Anthony Mary Claret)
Often, actually very often, God allows His greatest servants to make the most humiliating mistakes. This humbles them in their own eyes and in the eyes of their fellow men. It prevents them from seeing and taking pride in the graces God bestows on them. (St. Louis Marie de Montfort)
Did you see any reason to believe that Levada put that up there? It's gone now - suppose that has to do with the complaints he got?
What statements has Levada made supporting the idea of "one world religion"?
Lo and behold, I finally managed to track down exactly what happens at Mission of the Atonement.
http://motaspirit.org/communion_of_churches.htmEach Sunday we gather as one community in the church, where we have the Liturgy of the Word together, including the homily and the Prayers of the Faithful. After the collection, with an exchange of peace and a sung blessing, we separate for Eucharist. We alternate using the adjoining hall or the chapel for our separate Eucharist services.
No concelebration there, although a joint homily is bad enough (a Lutheran minister giving the homily to Catholics?).
Was just wondering what the heck Catholics disagreed over back before there was media or printed word - plus the problem of widespread overwhelming illiteracy. I mean, most people probably were hazy on who the pope was, never mind who he appointed to the various curial positions. How does knowing this stuff intimately help us live our lives as Catholics?
Good quotes!
For most Catholics for most of his history, their only exposure to any member of the clergy was to their parish priest. They seldom saw a bishop; the church records for my ancestral village show three confirmations in the village over a 175 year period. Yet their faith was stronger than that of most Americans who have access to all sorts of media. Your final question is a very good one.
Thanks for saying what I was meaning to...
As will I! Thank you for your post. I heard someone say,years ago that one of the problems of our Catholic Church is that there are too many people who think they are pope.
Thank you for your kind comments. On page 381 of Sheed's Theology and Sanity, in the Chapter called Habituation to Man, he states much of what Thomas a Kempis states in another manner. In essence, since we, ourselves, are in constant chaos and cannot predict what we ourselves will do, we cannot judge another as we simply haven't the knowledge. And, this is not to say anything of Christ's Scriptural proscription to "Judge not, lest ye be judged."
That is all I had hoped to get across. We cannot see what lies ahead and many fears may be realized. But, our ways are not God's ways. As Fr. Corapi says, "Out of the greatest evil of all time--Deicide--in which creatures killed the Creator, salvation was accomplished." That boggles the mind.
Frank
This priest has great courage and knows who the boss is, JESUS CHRIST. Praise God for someone who is willing to come forward just as Jesus did...
They just don't know better.
Folks time to do research on your dioceses. You will be surprised and shocked as to the goings ons. I know I was.
We desperately need reform in the RCC in the US. If we want the RCC in the US to start recovering we need CLEAN UP, NOT COVER UP....
Not even scratching the surface... embarrassing nonsense...approved by the Bishops!!! Wake Up!!!
However, now that the choice has been made everyone has started defending Levada. All of a sudden, in the mind of these freepers, he has been transformed into an staunch defender of the faith. Why? Is there any objective evidence to support this belief in his sudden transformation? None I can see. The only reason I can think of is that deep down they harbor the notion that the pope is impeccable, that he cannot make an error in judgment or make a poor choice. That it is ridiculous to believe that any politics played a part in this choice instead of considering only who would be best for the job. Therefor, if the pope chose him, he must be orthodox. We now must ignore and deny all evidence to the contrary, lest we risk being accused of dissent, rash judgment, attacking the pope etc.
Excellent point. It's 1984 here in the Novus Ordo Church.
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