The devil you know (Scott Peck channels Malachi Martin)

National Catholic Reporter ^ | 4/29/2005 | Richard Woods

[The Shrew]

You never cease to amaze me.

This is an excellent article. Thanks for posting it.

Regards,

TS

[pro610]

The fact that Dr Peck Idolizes Martin says it all.
Sound to me that Dr Peck may have been possessed also.

Good article.


Satan is very tricky!

[WriteOn]

Is this the same author of many books including the classic Another Kind of Love, one of the first gay-positive books written from a Catholic pastoral perspective?

ANOTHER KIND OF LOVE: Homosexuality & Spirituality, by Fr. Richard Woods OP. Chicago: Thos. More Press, 1977. 163 pp $8.95; Doubleday Image paperback, rev. 1978, 155 pp $1.95. A Dominican priest's ob­servations on and recommendations for a loving ministry with gay men.

[Antioch]

Dr. Peck's lack of knowledge of exorcisms, Christianity, possession and the bible shows throughout this book. He is not a designated diocesan exorcist, he's a Shrink, therefore, Carl Jung, Carl Rogers or Freud et al. are part of his "pastoral package" to exorcize demons. Ergo, Christ was a just a man, and Satan is a metaphor.

There are currently three legitimate books on exorcism;

Gabriel Amorth's An Exorcist Tells his Story

Gabriel Amorth's An Exorcist: More Stories

Malachi Martin's Hostage to the Devil.

All three of the above books are in perfect concordance with Catholic teaching and each other in the definition of possession, and the theology of possession and exorcism

Both of Peck's books, on the other hand, are bizarre anomolies which are at odds with scripture and the faith of the church fathers. Even though he pays lip service to Fr. Martin, Peck seems to believe we can battle preternatural beings through an application of human willpower.

Strange that the National Uncatholic Reporter, in it's craven hatred of Fr. Martin, trashes Peck's book- Peck actually serves their horizontal church agenda quite well.

[Jeff Chandler]

Welcome back, sink. I have some trouble, however, with this line from this article:

the witchcraft trials of the 17th century that claimed the lives of hundreds of thousands of innocents.

HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS???!!! This sounds like the ravings of an anti-Christian liar.

[Grey Ghost II]

ANOTHER KIND OF LOVE: Homosexuality & Spirituality, by Fr. Richard Woods OP. Chicago: Thos. More Press, 1977. 163 pp $8.95; Doubleday Image paperback, rev. 1978, 155 pp $1.95. A Dominican priest's ob­servations on and recommendations for a loving ministry with gay men.

Good find!

[RobbyS]

Martin's view of the Jesuits is very much on the mark.

[Veto!]

Scott Peck is Bill Moyers lite. Another raving liberal with zero dedication to facts.

[Gumdrop]

I believe Fr. Malachai Martin was still allowed to say Mass privately. He petitioned the Vatican to allow him to leave the Jesuit order. Fr. Malachi was a deeply traditional Catholic priest. He had been an exorcist for many years, and at the Vatican for many years also. He was critical of some of the things going on in the Catholic Church hierarchy, but not of the current Pope John Paul II. Fr. Malachai often said that there was black smoke in the Vatican, meaning that some of the clerics there were actually not on the side of Jesus and the church.

It's curious that Cardinal Ratzinger petitioned JPII three times for retirement, and everytime JPII requested that Ratzinger stay as he needed him. I think JPII knew he could trust Cardinal Ratzinger and not some of the others. In fact, It almost seems as though JPII orchestrated the election of his successor by keeping Benedict XVI in Rome so all the Cardinals knew him very well. That is what gave him such a strong base of support going into the conclave.

[AlbionGirl]

ANOTHER KIND OF LOVE: Homosexuality & Spirituality, by Fr. Richard Woods OP.

Thanks for that. There's no such thing as disinterested analysis anymore, is there? Between John Allen and this man, The National Catholic Reporer should go public.

[D Edmund Joaquin]

Fr. Malachi Martin was asked if he feared for his life since writing "Windswept House". Fr. Martin said that he was but was too old to change his ways. Father Martin soon met his death under very suspicious circumstances. He was found unconscious and bleeding in his home with hard wood fragments imbedded in his skull. In a coma, he regained consciousness just briefly enough to declare that it was a murder attempt but that he did not get a chance to see who did it. Fr. Malachi Martin fell back into coma and died on July 27, 1999

[Antioch]

Have you read Martin's "The Jesuits"? I agree, it's been a long pathetic fall for this once shining example of Christian evangelism. What are doing now? Playing with Enneagrams and Marxism– they don't even have the courage to call themselves Catholic, preferring the term "Ignatian Spirituality." With a few notable exceptions like Fr. John Hardon and Fr. Martin, the order as a whole is heretical and should be suppressed by B16.

[sinkspur]

There's no such thing as disinterested analysis anymore, is there? Between John Allen and this man, The National Catholic Reporer should go public.

You continue to slur John Allen with your juvenile and snide implication that he is gay.

He is not gay; he is very much a married man.

[sinkspur]

With a few notable exceptions like Fr. John Hardon and Fr. Martin, the order as a whole is heretical and should be suppressed by B16.

Malachi Martin was a mental case and a master manipulator. His "historical" novels are embellished with fiction and are made to sound believeable.

If one is not a conspiracy theorist, I don't understand the fascination with him.

[Antioch]

Scott Peck is Bill Moyers lite.

ROTFL!

exactly.. or Marrianne Williamson menthol...

Robert Blair Kaiser is Fr. Martin's chief calumnator and another certified liberal whack job. Didn't they nab him with a big butterfly net and throw him in a psych ward for a few years for persistent delusions and paranoia?

[Mark in the Old South]

Re: "ANOTHER KIND OF LOVE: Homosexuality & Spirituality, by Fr. Richard Woods"

How you live affects what you believe. Or should WriteOn be ashamed of himself for peeking behind the curtain?

I am interested in hearing what sinkspur thinks of Fr Woody, Author of this article and book. What are we to conclude sinkspur? Do you recommend the book as well?

[Mark in the Old South]

Oh my error that is Fr Wood, not Fr Woody. ;-}

[Mark in the Old South]

Yes he is. Have you seen post #4?

:-D

[cicero's_son]

His "historical" novels are embellished with fiction and are made to sound believeable.

Have you read them?