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CHRIST IS RISEN! TRULY HE IS RISEN! GREAT AND HOLY PASCHA, MAY 1, 2005
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/chrysostom-easter.html ^ | 400 AD | St. John Chrysostomos

Posted on 04/30/2005 10:59:48 PM PDT by Kolokotronis

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“Christ is risen from the dead, trampling down death by death, and to those in the tomb He has given life”.

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1 posted on 04/30/2005 10:59:49 PM PDT by Kolokotronis
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To: MarMema; crazykatz; don-o; JosephW; lambo; MoJoWork_n; newberger; Petronski; The_Reader_David; ...

Christ Is Risen PING!


2 posted on 04/30/2005 11:00:29 PM PDT by Kolokotronis ("Set a guard over my mouth, O Lord; keep watch over the door of my lips!" (Psalm 141:3))
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To: Kolokotronis

That's beautiful! Did you write it? It's wonderful, really.

I'm full of questions tonight, here's another: why is Orthodox Easter so much later than Roman (however one should say it) Easter this year?


3 posted on 04/30/2005 11:38:15 PM PDT by jocon307 (dang, I lost my tagline, again!)
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To: jocon307

"That's beautiful! Did you write it? It's wonderful, really"

Good heavens, no. It was given by St. John Chrysostomos on Pascha in Constantinople more than 1600 years ago.


4 posted on 04/30/2005 11:58:18 PM PDT by Kolokotronis ("Set a guard over my mouth, O Lord; keep watch over the door of my lips!" (Psalm 141:3))
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To: jocon307
The Catholic and Protestant Churches follow the Julian calender where as the Orthodox Church follow the Gregorian calender. That is what makes Easter so far apart in some years. In fact every four years all the Churches celebrate Easter at the same time, and the largest time difference between the two "Esters" is five weeks as in the case this year.
5 posted on 05/01/2005 12:05:05 AM PDT by jveritas (The Left cannot win a national election ever again.)
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To: Kolokotronis
Truly Risen.

Christos Sanesti.

6 posted on 05/01/2005 12:06:11 AM PDT by jveritas (The Left cannot win a national election ever again.)
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To: Kolokotronis

Oh yes, I realized that after I posted my comment! Sorry, for the error, but keep the compliment for yourself anyway, great post! make it. But you haven't explained the divergence in the dates of Easter, I'm still very confused about that. It is over one month's difference, can you explain it?


7 posted on 05/01/2005 12:07:35 AM PDT by jocon307 (dang, I lost my tagline, again!)
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To: jveritas

I'm like, the most annoying person on this thread, sorry.

But I thought Easter was determined by the equinox, or somesuch, I'm surprised it could vary so much. It was ridiculously early this year, for "us", I think the Orthodox folks had it right this time.


8 posted on 05/01/2005 12:10:37 AM PDT by jocon307 (dang, I lost my tagline, again!)
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To: Kolokotronis

St. John of the Golden Mouth, indeed -- even in translation!


9 posted on 05/01/2005 12:10:55 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?)
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You are not annoying at all.

I got my information regarding the differences in the two Easters when I was going to Sunday schools, but I may be mistaken in thois regard. It may be that the Catholic and Protestant Churches use the equinox to determine the time of Easter and this may be what the Julian calender is based on.

10 posted on 05/01/2005 12:14:42 AM PDT by jveritas (The Left cannot win a national election ever again.)
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"It may be that the Catholic and Protestant Churches use the equinox to determine the time of Easter..."

Ah! I hadn't thought of that.

Well, I'm not sure if you are right or wrong about Easter, but your tagline is 100% correct!


11 posted on 05/01/2005 12:18:14 AM PDT by jocon307 (dang, I lost my tagline, again!)
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To: jocon307

Orthodoxy calculates Pascha as occuring on the first Sunday after the first full moon after the Vernal Equinox calculated by the Julian calendar but always after Passover. The standard was set by the First Ecumenical Council in 325 AD. Time for bed!


12 posted on 05/01/2005 12:25:02 AM PDT by Kolokotronis ("Set a guard over my mouth, O Lord; keep watch over the door of my lips!" (Psalm 141:3))
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To: jocon307
Please see the link below that talks about he date difference of Catholic and Protestant Easter and Orthodox Easter.

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/faq/docs/easter.html

I had in reverse, it is the Catholic/Protestant Churches that follows the Gregorian Calender, and the Orthodox follow the Julian Calender. I apologize for the mistake :)

13 posted on 05/01/2005 12:27:38 AM PDT by jveritas (The Left cannot win a national election ever again.)
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To: Kolokotronis
Christ Is Risen PING!

Indeed, He has risen!

I go pass out now.

14 posted on 05/01/2005 2:02:39 AM PDT by monkfan (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: Kolokotronis

Alithos Anesti, my dear brother in Christ!!


15 posted on 05/01/2005 2:50:46 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: monkfan

Christ is Risen!! Love to you, my brother in Christ!!


16 posted on 05/01/2005 2:51:23 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: FormerLib; katnip; The_Reader_David; ezfindit; kosta50

Christ is Risen!!!


17 posted on 05/01/2005 2:52:57 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Agrarian

Christ is risen from the dead, trampling down death by death and upon those in the tombs bestowing life.


18 posted on 05/01/2005 2:55:04 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema

happy easter marmema


19 posted on 05/01/2005 3:20:51 AM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: jveritas; jocon307; Kolokotronis
As Kolokotronis points out, the main thing that makes the difference between Orthodox Pascha and western Easter is that our celebration must happen after the 7 days of Passover.

Thus, sometimes our Pascha is the same Sunday as Western Easter, but it is never earlier. As to how often that happens, it varies a lot. Sometimes it will happen several times in a decade, other times there will be a longer period between it falling on the same date.

It was set by the 1st Council of Nicea, thus when a number of the Orthodox churches changed to the Gregorian calendar (technically a "revised Julian calendar,") no church changed the calculation of Pascha, and we all celebrate it together, with a couple of vey minor exceptions in Finland and one of the Netherlands' jurisdictions, where the observance is apparently mandated by the state to coincide with the Western Easter. (Never did understand that one.)

Anyway, it's 4 AM, I just got home, and am still running on adrenaline. I remarked to my college-age son as we were driving home: "big night!" To which he responded: "Yeah, and it seems to get bigger every year..."

It's like Christmas, Easter, New Year's, and the 4th of July rolled into one... and then some.

20 posted on 05/01/2005 3:22:32 AM PDT by Agrarian
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