Posted on 04/28/2005 1:09:30 PM PDT by NYer
Incredibly cool. Gratia!
Frank
That's neat...both my hubby and I like to listen to that....
My latin is very rusty...I have a study book coming in from Amazon. I was once very good at doing it...but wasn't Catholic when I studied it last...now I have much more motivation to bring it up to snuff...
I think the ORIGINAL Evil empire would probably be Messopatamian (Tower of Babel) or Babylonian ;). Even Carthage was at it's height before Rome.
If you haven't discovered this page, you must check it out:
http://www.music.indiana.edu/tml/start.html
Thesarus Musicarum Latinarum
(I wouldn't have looked these things up if you hadn't started posting links!)
The "old Mass" in less than all its glory was usually something less than glorious. It wass not until mid-century that the dialogue mass caught on. Until that time any dialogue was largely between the priest and the altar boys. Meanwhile the congregation said their beads or read private devotional books. And as for Palesttrina, forget that. We heard mostly old Victorian saws or the kind of Italian operatic pieces that Pius X so hated.
Thank you for posting this!! It is my recollection from childhood. There was no air conditioning. The church in summer was hot, packed with sweaty bodies, the priest mumbled, the altar boys responded, the nuns used their clickers to let us know when to stand or kneel, the choir sang and we were nothing more than observers. As you pointed out, many in the congregation applied themselves to praying the rosary because it was nearly impossible to follow along with the mass. Now that it has practically faded into history, memories of those who miss it fixate on certain elements, like the Litany of the Saints.
Those who were never coffered into these cramped churches, romanticize what they imagine the mass must have been. They point to 'church attendance' as an indicator of how excellent it was. Nonsense! The churches were packed from fear of eternal damnation, which is what we were guaranteed if we missed Sunday Mass.
I am no fan of the new liturgy, and totally disdain the novelties introduced in the US that have robbed the Mass of its reverence, but it irks me immensely when I read the fantacies of those who never experienced the 'real' Latin Mass.
We need to say this after Mass again, Your Holiness. We really need St. Michael's protection now!
Haven't been called "Your Holiness" before.
I kinda like it. *Grins*
God Bless!
Habemus Pacham!
We started here.
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Your experience is not the same as everyone else's. Perhaps you had poor catechesis. My mother who is the same age as Pope Benedict XVI knew and understood the whole mass in Latin even though she never had a "part to play". She was taught the parts of the mass, their meaning, and Latin. On her own she used to attend daily mass at 6 am before school from first grade on through college. She still knows every traditional hymn in Latin by heart.
It is one of her greatest joys in old age to assist at the mass of her youth, the mass of the saints again, and to know that when she dies she will have a proper requiem mass.
My wife and I like to look through the song book to find the songs that have no reference to the Lord whatsoever. I can't understand why some of these songs are considered hymns at all.
Is that the prayer to St. Michael the Archangel?
AH HA!!!
That will be the next thing we study!!
We actually end Holy Mass with the prayer in English so now I can teach the girls!
Latin Catechism blend for my girls!!
I love it!
God bless you and yours... +
" Fiat lux "
Ok, thats.... " turn on the lights "
or is it
" we need light bulbs"
wheres my latin dictionary!
Let there be light.
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