Pope Warns Church Courts About Marriage Rulings

ZENIT - The World Seen From Rome ^ | January 30, 2005 | ZENIT News Services

[BlackElk]

No, but you probably mistake yourself for a Catholic while proving otherwise conclusively by your adherence to the schism of Marcel.

[murphE]

I'm not going to listen to someone who tells LIES.

Besides this topic is the abuse of annulments that you and your lying modernist friends have allowed to happen. It is not about the good Archbishop, so try to stay on topic OK?

[BlackElk]

There is no obligation of humility before the schism and its mouthpieces and adherents. I have already indicated that any error (I am not certain there has been one and I will look elsewhere than the scism itself for proof) but ONLY error is withdrawn. The SSPX schism is still a schism and its ringleaders are STILL EXCOMMUNICATED (as they well ought to be until they have publicly repented and groveled and done penance appropriately) which does not render them or their gullibles trustworthy.

[BlackElk]

Marcel was excommunicated for his crimes. That does not seem to mark him as "the good Archbishop." Whomever may you be referencing?????

[BlackElk]

Make sure that God does not mistake you for Marcel L.

[BlackElk]

Marcel was not much of a Catholic either as noted by his excommunication.

[Gerard.P]

Keep trying. Your one trick pony is getting real old. Rank Amatuer. Incredibly, You were right just to stick with the venom, because when it comes to facts. Face it pal, you just suck.

It boils down to LeFebvre and his saintly priests weren't going to allow the post-conciliar debacle to put the Church down the drain and Christ raised them up in direct defiance to them.

ps. you don't know squat about Chesterton, if you'd think he would've put up with the post conciliar garbage that you swim in.

There is no schism. Just as JPII can't change the weather. But I know, I know, you just make it up as you go along.

As I said, keep trying.

[Gerard.P]

Make sure that God does not mistake you for Marcel L. God doesn't make mistakes. JPII does. In case you didn't know. He's not God.

[murphE]

There is no obligation of humility...

Right... you get publically caught slandering someone and it's OK. Sounds like...Michael Moore. Your defense is, "I may have accused someone falsely, but I believe he's guilty of something altogether different too, so that makes it OK."

So back to the topic, how do you and your modernist friends plan to clean up this mess you've caused with annulments? Never mind don't answer, I don't trust known liars.

[Gerard.P]

Marcel was not much of a Catholic either as noted by his excommunication.

Even is the excommunication were valid (which it is not) you would be guilty of a non-sequitur when considering Origen

Let's put JPII to the Catholic Test shall we? It'll be a shameful history lesson in the Church that an archbishop had to do the work to hold the Church together while the Pontiff tried to tear it apart.

[Gerard.P]

MurphE,

Is that REALLY Micheal Mooreish or is it Dan Ratherish?

[sinkspur]

So back to the topic, how do you and your modernist friends plan to clean up this mess you've caused with annulments?

What mess? The grounds for annulment are clearly outlined in Canon Law. Canon Law, approved by the Pope himself.

[BlackElk]

Hey, Newbie, you've been here two whole months and you take it upon yourself to give orders?????? These arguments between Church and schismatics have been going on here for years before you arrived and they are going to be going on long after you will probably be gone. Wallow in your schism, risk the consequences, all in the exercise of the free will that God gave you. If you are going to dress up and play Catholic on the Internet, those who ARE Catholic are going to respond in defense of the Church. Say what you please. So will we. The schism has never earned the right to be engaged in the realm of principles or ideas. The Church has no obligation to assist you in your attempts to appear to have earned that right. Rome is the standard. Your sorry CULT is the deviation.

Do you deny that MARCEL AND EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOUR BISHOPS are excommunicated?

Do you deny that the SSPX is a schism?

[BlackElk]

JP II is pope. Test passed. The Holy Ghost provides no heretics as pope.

Marcel and his episcopal rebels were excommunicated. They fail the Catholic test. Case closed unless and until JP II says otherwise. He is pope. You are not and neither was the nefarious Marcel.

[murphE]

I apologize for your thread getting off topic. I saw lies being propagated about a deceased Archbishop and felt that I needed to defend his good name. I will not carry on anymore with the culprits of the calumny, and disrupt your thread anymore.

[BlackElk]

Actually JP II issued the judgments that Marcel and his bishops were excommunicated and that your movement is a schism. We are not a democracy. You don't get to decide. The pope does that.

[murphE]

Take it up with black elk.

[BlackElk]

If you want Michael Moore, you can find him in the tons of lies heaped upon the person and office of His Holiness by the modern-day Luthers of the Marcellian schism. You are a relative newcomer to these wars on FR.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

It's so sad. He revealed he is not in communion with JPII by his criticisms of JPII's favored man. I hope he returns to the Church.

[murphE]

Pray for him.