Posted on 11/07/2004 8:40:35 PM PST by Quix
Davey, you have done a good job here.
As you know, I didn't have knowledge of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, until you called them to my
attention.
Thank you for sharing your find with us.
Ruth
India, Russia, China and more.
I think you're correct.
However, from my perspective, I won't be one of those.
I will be here for the Final Battle.
Why do I think that? I'm a maverick. A wild card. I won't stand for unfairness, or seeing others treated badly.
I've been fired for standing up for others.
God has a job for me, I'm just not sure what it is.
You're a good debater, and a good person. Thanks.
THANKS. GREAT WORK.
I agree it's a very dangerous org.
Though I think the UN is even worse.
There evidently are those . . . meek sorts . . . who live through tribulation and repopulate the earth in their mortal bodies.
Plenty of mysteries.
Have often speculated about multiple raptures as people and events are RIPE?
Don't believe that believers IN GENERAL (or at all, really) are appointed unto GOD'S WRATH which clearly begins mid trib. But God could well and likely will have some 'special sorts' slated for . . . Special Forces work the last 3.5 years.
Have wondered for years if I was so slated. Have felt it was optional to some significant degree. Have suffered enough the last 30 years have asked to opt out. Yet, IF GOD were to strengthen me AND ABSOLUTELY ENABLE ME TO BE TOTALLY CONFIDENT OF HIS BEING WITH ME IN THE MIDST OF WHATEVER . . .
I suppose I could change my mind. A growth area. Some sorts of sufferings can be pretty hard on one's faith and confidence. I realize the refiner's fires are hotter and more relentless for a lot of us than ever before.
Anyway--much appreciate your postings. Much. Please keep up the great work.
I don't really think anyone has it all figured out. Don't think it's God's time for having it all figured out, yet. I don't think Christ setting foot on the Mt of Olives is the great 'catching away.' I think that's when He returns with 10 thousands of ten thousands of His saints to wrap evil up in an imploding ball and lock it away for a thousand years.
Anyway--it's still increasingly 'buckle seat belts' time.
LUB, LUB, LUB,
Thanks for the information!
A lot of Christians and scientists find the incidents spoken of in book of Enoch to be "unimaginable". Scientists typically object to all miracles and prophecies as "unimaginable" because their approach, aka "scientific materialism" cannot accept that some things can never be explained. The notable exception is in math and physics where "unimaginable" things such as wave/particle duality, non-locality and the uncertainty principle have to be accepted as an axiom.
Many Christians find the things spoken of in Enoch to be "unimaginable" because Enoch is not part of thier canon. Some, no doubt, find them "unimaginable" because of differences in versions of Enoch in Ethiopa v Slavic origins v the Dead Sea Scrolls.
I can't answer any further without knowing the subject.
Quix had posed a question, and I had repsonded that if we knew exactly what happened during the time of Noah, we'd have the answers.
Quix and I kicked this around a bit, and I mentioned that you had some interesting views on that time period.
I ended by saying that no one was prepared to believe the unimaginable.
I think someone had said it had to do with wickedness and evil, and my response had been, if Christ had meant that, He could have picked any moment in recorded history.
The time of Noah is unique. My post also included a question
What was happening during the time of Noah, that only ocurred during the time of Noah that is happening now?
I was wondering where you were. Your kind words lifted my spirit this morning.
God Bless You
I have been reading as much as is available regarding "the time of Noah", but the KJV, and the IL only have about 6 verses that say anything, and what is said is cryptic at best.
The Book of Enoch covers the "time of Noah" fairly well, but translations are questionable.
Alamo_Girl has it pinned down, as far as what happened, and why.
No one is prepared to believe the un-imaginable.
AG, here is the post where I used your name. Hope I didn't cause any problems.
Abuse, murder, rapes have always been around. Thats just evil.
The signature of the time of Noah, and the relation to now, is unique.
If all Christ had been referring to was wickedness, He could have picked any time in history.
What was happening in Noah's time, that ONLY ocurred in Noah's time, and is happening NOW?
Answer that question, and you will know more than you want to.
Oh, I don't know that in 100% of the cases of Believers . . . that there would be NO CHOICE of going in the first or whatever numbered CATCHING AWAY. I don't think we have enough info to say emphatically one way or another.
I just know that Father sometimes has special arrangements with this or that bird of rare plumage created for whatever purposes. AND, that SOMETIMES, God offers unusual OPTIONS to some individuals particularly close to His heart and/or for whom He has some special, potential glories if the person cares to rise to such an occasion.
You would be correct...that is the main reason why the Ukraine is so important to Putin, he is trying to rebuild the Soviet Union, who will join the organization with the other countries listed. He pulled an election stunt in Belarus as well:
Oct 28, 2004 - Last week, Belarus held a referendum on making strongman Alexander Lukashenko, who already has agreed to reunite his country with Russia, the equivalent of president-for-life. An exit poll conducted by the Gallup Organization showed that the proposition failed. But when Belarusan authorities announced it had passed with 77 percent of the vote, Russia quickly pronounced the vote free and fair.
We need to watch Putin closely.
Not necessarily disagreeing with the general facts you outline.
Am mostly saying that God is God. He writes the rules. AND He writes the exceptions.
And SOMETIMES He seems to like giving His kids choices for His glory and to bless them EVEN MORE.
Sometimes it's the difference between chocolate vs vanilla ice cream. Sometimes it's the difference between jerkey and Filet Mignon . . . or between silver and gold.
If God offered YOU a choice between being caught away on the first elevator up vs stayin X weeks, months or the whole 3.5 years more and doing great exploits for Him and The Kingdom--if HE guaranteed your safety and eternal safety IN HIM . . . what would you choose?
In terms of the thread getting long . . .
If you feel so inclined, feel free to start a new thread.
There ARE several very long threads . . . is it the Hobbit one? Up to 60,000 or some such and never started over. Or is that another one. The THREAT MATRIX thread starts a new section every 5,000 posts.
Sooooooo, as you see fit is fine with me. Either way.
Blessings,
Hmmmm...did a search and came up with this website. Although, from first impression, the guy sounds somewhat like a nutcase in most respects, especially since he calls the Noah's Ark story a myth and I firmly believe it to be true. However, the Sychronicity and Signs from Above sections are chilling.
Actually, there are three different rapture or translation scenarios listed in most study bibles: Pre-tribulation, mid-tribulation, and post-tribulation. Note- "tribulation" refers to the period of the anti-christ's reign,even though the first 3.5 years will be a time of peace. There are a lot of denominations that only mention the pre-tribulation rapture scenario. I think this is unwise...Christians may face the ultimate testing during the tribulation period.
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