Posted on 08/18/2004 7:43:12 AM PDT by Stubborn
The following list of words and phrases are typically used by modernist theologians and lay people, in reference to Catholic theology/practice/attitude/concepts. Most of them are inherently vague and for that very reason are used by the modernists -- it is not clear just what they mean or when their meaning applies.
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Why? According to RC teaching that is what we are. It's ok to stand up for your historic sinkspur.
I have more respect for those RC's that stand up for what the RCC actually teaches than those who want to whitewash it because of some desire for ecumenicalism.
Like the denial of the Perpetual Virginity of Mary? Or the denial of the actual Presence of the Lord in the accidents of the Lord's Table?
Holy cow! Apologies to our Hindu friends. You're way older than I thought! ;^)
I live in upstate NY, and it's corn season here. We've had a lot of rain, and I think some of the crop was lost. I'm on my second ear, butter, salt: simple but unsurpassable.
When I think of all that the Good Lord has deigned to Bless me with, I'm overcome with gratitude. And supposedly, no one deserves blessings, but I can think of countless people who deserve them more than me.
Does the Church talk about Gratitude much these days? Is it in the modernists' lexicon?
The modernists greatest self-deception is that the Church is about Man, and not The Son of Man. So, perhaps man, is another watchword.
Just curious ... but, which saints canonized after 1965, do the Traditionalists and/or SSPXers recognize?
Anywhere near the Capitol District?
Yes. Every Mass is a thanksgiving to God for all that He has done for us.
God doesn't need the Church, but man does.
The Church is for man; it is the Body of Christ. He gives Himself to man in every Mass, in every prayer.
It is a pity of man if he does not avail himself of this great gift of the Church and of the graces God gives him.
P.S. I love all you down-Staters too, even though you vote like a bunch of Schmucks!
I don't know. You'd have to ask every individual, I suppose.
I am called a traditionalist, and while I can't speak for everyone, I can say that all of them that I know personally accept all canonized Saints (including those after 1965). It is my understanding that this is an infallible decree. I think the only people that are going to argue that they are not Saints are sedevacantists.
I do hear people questioning the prudence of some of the canonizations. That is not to say that the person is not in heaven, but that they are not someone whose ideas should be imitated. Often times when someone is canonized, their ideology and writings/opinions are canonized with them. That is why the process used to be so rigorous, including a "devil's advocate" to dig up the dirt and argue against the canonization.
I will give an example, but a hypothetical one so as to avoid taking this discussion into a "Saint bashing" direction. During the trade center ordeal, a priest chaplain for the fire department was killed. It is said that he was going back into the building to administer last rights (I don't know the truth here, just what I read, but for the sake of argument let's say this is the case). I have now seen where people are pushing for his canonization. Here is the problem- it has been reported by some who were close to him that he was a sodomite (not their words, obviously). I will not argue the state of this man's soul. Perhaps he had confessed this or reached perfect contrition, so now he is in heaven. I have no idea. But, to canonize this man would be to canonize his homosexuality. Were he canonized, I would not question his being in heaven, the declaration would be sufficient. I would question the prudence of declaring him a Saint, though, and would not include him in my list of "Saints to teach the kids about".
That's about how I understand it.
It's funny that you mention that one. It's always niggled at me since it seems that the word "Eucharist" can mean different things... the Mass or the Body of Christ or a pronoun as in "Eucharistic Gathering" or "Eucharistic sharing". Now I find this somewhat confusing language. And today I read on another thread the little blurb in the Missals about non-Catholics receiving Holy Communion and I find the same confusion is dispensed by the continued multi faceted use of the word "Eucharist".
The guidelines for receiving Communion, which are issued by the U.S. bishops and published in many missalettes, explain, "We welcome our fellow Christians to this celebration of the Eucharist as our brothers and sisters. We pray that our common baptism and the action of the Holy Spirit in this Eucharist will draw us closer to one another and begin to dispel the sad divisions which separate us. We pray that these will lessen and finally disappear, in keeping with Christ's prayer for us "that they may all be one" (John 17:21)."Because Catholics believe that the celebration of the Eucharist is a sign of the reality of the oneness of faith, life, and worship, members of those churches with whom we are not yet fully united are ordinarily not admitted to Communion. Eucharistic sharing in exceptional circumstances by other Christians requires permission according to the directives of the diocesan bishop and the provisions of canon law. . . . "
Read it a couple of times. It is really confusing.
Eucharist and Communion mean the same thing. Those who say it doesn't just want to fight.
Yes, Mother Theresa's sanctity and orthodoxy have been brought up before on this very forum. Protestant's were very critical of Theresa's unwillingness to convert people who came to her.
Protestant's were critical of her. You are critical of her. Gee, are these the components of a syllogism? :o)
Christ wasn't unwilling. As a matter of fact, He was crucified for doing so.
Barbara, Celarent, Darii or Ferio?
There are occaisions in scripture when Jesus healed or comforted without mention of a demand for conversion.
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