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Christ or Chaos ^ | 6th August 2004 | Dr Thomas Droleskey

Posted on 08/08/2004 9:33:28 PM PDT by AskStPhilomena

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1 posted on 08/08/2004 9:33:30 PM PDT by AskStPhilomena
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To: AskStPhilomena

Related:
http://www.dailycatholic.org/issue/04Aug/aug8rea.htm


2 posted on 08/08/2004 10:28:44 PM PDT by AskStPhilomena
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To: AskStPhilomena
One of Tom's best articles. I especially like what he had to say about watching who are children play with. My co-workers at a Novus Ordo college have children who are raised in worldly homes, so we have to be very careful. If our daughter spends too much time with some of the these children, it's really something (we have the same issue with worldly grandparents, but I won't go into that in this post)!

The solution is simple, as Tom lays out: traditional families must form their own communities ('in the world, but not OF the world') near traditional Mass sites.

3 posted on 08/09/2004 12:36:16 PM PDT by salva veritate
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To: AskStPhilomena

Thank you very much for posting this nice offereing from Drolesky.

Gee......its been up for 24 hours, and not one Modernist Freeper has started to sling the verbal equivalent of feces at Drolesky yet. Hmmmm.......makes one think.......


4 posted on 08/09/2004 4:39:58 PM PDT by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux!)
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Hang in there; someone's sure to call it draconian.

But I agree on all points suggested in the article. In fact, if something along the lines of the above aren't done, then may as well kiss your kids goodbye because the world will in fact have them for lunch without all these things.

What's more, the suggestions actually do work and work very well.
5 posted on 08/09/2004 5:22:14 PM PDT by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: salva veritate

"The solution is simple, as Tom lays out: traditional families must form their own communities"

Our family have been seriously considering moving to a farm situated very close to a priory and school under the auspices of the SSPX. In fact, we're currently actively investigating the logistics involved. May the Lord's will be done.


6 posted on 08/10/2004 12:19:54 AM PDT by AskStPhilomena
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To: pascendi

"In fact, if something along the lines of the above aren't done, then may as well kiss your kids goodbye"

It saddens me to see how many so-called traditional Catholic homes are still perverted by television sets.
I remember one father telling me how he finally decided to through out the TV when his 10-year-old son (given a choice) elected for "tampax" as his birthday gift (claiming this would allow him to run, swim and ride horses etc).


7 posted on 08/10/2004 12:27:24 AM PDT by AskStPhilomena
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lol! We still have the TV, but it doesn't get a whole lot of action. Surprised he didn't mention video games, unless I missed it.

All in all, if someone put the list in to effect, the amusing conclusion is that the parents would be the ones to change and benefit the most; the baby-boomers have introduced to society a horde of adult children.
8 posted on 08/10/2004 8:57:11 AM PDT by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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I personally think that video games are worse then computers and the net (although the contrary opinion has much validity). My main reason for saying so is that in a video game one is virtually hypnotised (TV times 10 !). You become obsessed with acheiveing a "higher level" (which is very much reminiscent of occult/masonic things). And I have found that kids, after playing such things for hours on end seem to come up with very precocious knowledge of such weird topics as bondage and other stuff, that normally would not come up in a kid's vocabulary! This is in addition to becoming all too familiar with the comcept of "spells" and "magick" (spelling intentional).

We all remember the controversy over games like "Dungeons & Dragons" from the early 80s. Its now much worse!

Frankly, I think that any parent who allows their kids to play video games at all, might as well not bother with internet parental controls....since the games will teach the child similar things to the trash he might find on the net. Any overly "adult" knowledge obtained by a child without proper adult guidance, is dangerous to the child's soul!


9 posted on 08/10/2004 12:09:34 PM PDT by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux!)
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Okay, I don't intend to throw anything, but...I am disappointed at his literalist belief regarding Genesis.

We have all kinds of evidence that God created the world and everything in it by some other means than instantaneous "snap of the fingers" creation.

I personally think it's a trivial point--I mean, in the face of the fact that God created the heavens and the earth, how important is it exactly what mechanisms he chose? And since God is outside of time, what difference does it make how long it took?

We have scriptures saying that a day in Heaven is a thousand years on earth, so it's clear that a 24 hour day has no meaning or import on the Heavenly scale. Who cares if it was six 24 hour days (whatever that would mean before the creation of the stars and planets) or six billion years, or sixty? What bleeding difference does it make?

So I'm put off by people who insist on a six-day creation, not because I think it heresy, but because I think it's straining at a gnat after having swallowed the elephant.


10 posted on 08/15/2004 6:34:23 PM PDT by dsc
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To: salva veritate
The solution is simple, as Tom lays out: traditional families must form their own communities ('in the world, but not OF the world') near traditional Mass sites.

Surely you trads are being infected by us Novus Ordoers around here.

Maybe you could look into getting your own website.

11 posted on 08/15/2004 6:44:25 PM PDT by sinkspur ("Who is the father of the Sons of Zebedee"?--Cardinal Fanfani)
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We have all kinds of evidence that God created the world and everything in it by some other means than instantaneous "snap of the fingers" creation.

What evidence?

13 posted on 08/15/2004 8:24:37 PM PDT by Grey Ghost II
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Taking Einstein's definition of science as "Thinking God's thoughts after Him," scientific evidence.

God is not an evil deceiver. Ergo, there is a rational explanation for the fossil record and observed astrophysical phenomena.


14 posted on 08/15/2004 10:12:39 PM PDT by dsc
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To: sinkspur

Your theology is as liberal as Hillary's politics. It would be more appropriate for you to look into getting your own website.


15 posted on 08/15/2004 10:14:36 PM PDT by dsc
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"And it can be addicting, pulling people away from spending time with their children or spouses in order to argue endlessly with faceless cyber antagonists. It's kind of chilling, when I think about it."

Yes, that's true. On the other hand, I have learned a great deal, especially here on FR -- I even learned that I had a potentially fatal disease here. Perhaps more importantly, I learned that you do need to confess more than once a year, and that you shouldn't receive the sacrament of communion in a state of mortal sin.


16 posted on 08/15/2004 10:17:59 PM PDT by dsc
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To: thor76
Gee....

I'll be back.

18 posted on 08/16/2004 7:07:54 AM PDT by St.Chuck (It ain't slander if it's true.)
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To: sinkspur
Surely you trads are being infected by us Novus Ordoers around here.

Your words, not mine.

Maybe you could look into getting your own website.

Great idea!

19 posted on 08/16/2004 8:39:10 AM PDT by salva veritate
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Gee......its been up for 24 hours, and not one Modernist Freeper has started to sling the verbal equivalent of feces at Drolesky yet. Hmmmm...I've had a chance to read Mr. Drolesky's article.

Although I am not a modernist ( I just play one on the internet ) I do have a lot of problems with Mr. Drolesky's articles.

I am pleased that he didn't blame the evils that he says rock and roll spawned on the papacy. But I am not surprised that he attributed it to the ethereal freemasons. Extremist quacks seem to always think that there is a human conspiracy that leads to the sin of others. But that's not really the case, as we are all born to be sinners.

And why start with rock 'n roll and it's ancillaries? Rock'n roll is merely an offshoot from the blues and jazz and ragtime. If Mr. Drolesky knew anything about popular music he should be condemning the '20's musical " Makin' Whoopee ". Even the classical music he praises often represents scandalous themes

Yet even the rock music he condemns doesn't neccessarily deny the Deity. One only needs to listen to Coltrane's " A Love Supreme" or Led Zepplin's "In my Dying Day" (Gosh I hope that 's right, been a long time ) or Cat Steven's rendition of " Morning hs Broken ".

The Lord told the apostles to preach to all the nations. The Church teaches to go out amongst all nations. Mr. Drolesky is advocating segregation from the people. This is wrong, wrong, wrong.

We are to be lights under the bushel, where ever we may find ourselves.

I have more to say about this column, but it's late.

Do you have anything to say? Do you have any onbjection to what Mr. Drolsky has to say or are you in agreement whole heartedly?

20 posted on 08/17/2004 12:13:48 AM PDT by St.Chuck (It ain't slander if it's true.)
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