Fr. Kevin Hunt Installed as Zen Teacher

North American Benedictine and Cistercian monasteries of men and women. ^

[AAABEST]

LOL!

[AAABEST]

Here, let me get it started for the Dorkamada Brownshirt Club; "Your'e a schizmatic! Shut up! Don't post any more!

ROFL!!!

[Dominick]

But, don't you see that every thread critical of the liberal modernist Amchurch is really about whether or not YOU are a wicked excommunicated SSPX schismatic sedevacantist devil?

Lets make this clear. It is possible to correctly identify the status of the SSPX, and stay faithful to the Church. It is even easier to show a sedevacanist is not Catholic as well.

There is no AmChurch, despite the Wanderer. I hate these kind of divisions, where good people flee Catholicism leaving fewer and fewer of us in the battle lines. If I may paraphrase, 'we will hang together or hang separately.'

It's the Dorkemada thing:

Do you find this effective? I usually never attack another, and when I do it is for the positions they hold. I surly don't call names. Are you twisting my name because I am upholding the correct Catholic position?

[HarleyD]

One of the central points of Zen is intuitive understanding. As a result, words and sentences have no fixed meaning, and logic is often irrelevant. Words have meaning only in relation to who is using them, who they are talking to, and what situation they are used in. Some postings are indeed nonsense; other postings appear to be nonsense at first but this is because the meaning is all between the lines. Zen and poetry have gone hand in hand for centuries. What is Zen

Your Catholic Zen meditation for today.

Cloudy mountains, fold on fold,

How many thousands of them?

Shady valley road runs deep,

All traces of people gone

Green torrents, pure clear flow,

No place more full of beauty;

Birds sing my own heart’s harmony.

- Shih-Te (c. 730)

Disclaimer-Please keep in mind that words have no meaning and forget logic so you can interpret this any way you like. OOPS-forgot. Sola Zen scriptura is not Catholic tradition. Perhaps the good Zen Father can interpret it. ;O)

[Robert Drobot]

....that be 'Syncretism and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance'"?!?!?!?!

God grant us holy priests. Saint Pius X pray for us.

[OpusatFR]

"By coming to focus on the present moment through the practice of the techniques of Zen meditation, the Christian can become aware of God’s immediate loving presence.”

I deal with the New Agers who constantly speak of the god within themselves and others who also use imagery and meditation groups to heal. It works.

It also reminds me every single moment of the day that I have to trust Jesus alone. I have to put everything before Him, accept what comes as from Him, and give him Lordship as a servant. It isn't easy but has become easier over the years.

Zen is also a way of communicating with the god-within.

[Robert Drobot]

Given the sorry state of the Jesuit order, it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that the superior general would endorse a false religion (in obedience to the holy father's example perhaps?)

As you already know, Karol Wojtyla has eagerly endorsed the construction of a heathen anti-Roman Catholic temple dedicated to the worship of pagan/false gods, as well as animals deified by Hindus, false writings of muslims, and every manner of heathen worship - on consecrated grounds at Fatima!!!

God give us holy priests. Saint Pius X pray for us.

[Dominick]

As you already know, Karol Wojtyla has eagerly endorsed the construction of a heathen anti-Roman Catholic temple dedicated to the worship of pagan/false gods, as well as animals deified by Hindus, false writings of muslims, and every manner of heathen worship - on consecrated grounds at Fatima!!!

I have been looking for a primary source for this and I have not found one. I have a Zenit article, which is not quite primary, that addresses this, it says that this is an additional Church seating 9,000 (!) people. The Rector made it clear this was not a chapel for other faiths, but designed for those who if they wanted to come and "fraternally partake in our way of prayer".

If you have a source on this that shows something else ping mail me a link please. I still am looking. Secondhand sources are very easy to get.

[AAABEST]

Do you find this effective?

Heh.

When broadsword used the term "Dorkmada", he wasn't referring to you. There are a few here that belong to an imaginary club they call the "Torquemada Gentleman's Club" or some such. The only requirement for membership seems to be a keen desire to bash the priestly Society of Saint Pius X.

[Convert from ECUSA]

Ugh! Bartender, a bottle of Pepto over here...yeah, the whole thing! Oh, and please send down a Tanqueray chaser too! Looks like the "romanized episcopagans" are hellbent to catch up to the level of New Age nonsense of their ECUSA counterparts. And this is "ecumenical?!" To embrace a foreign spirituality?! - rhetorical questions. Learning fast never trust the Jesuits; I'm sure there must be a remnant of Catholic Christians in the Jesuits somewhere, but they look more like some New Age bean-sprout and tofu eating bunch of gentiles! I could see it now, go on a retreat somewhere and have some carpetbagger "retreat leader" trying to get people into this Zen whatever. Feh, silly schmendriks!

Thanks, but no thanks, oh "wise and enlightened" whatevers, who mix root beer with the 12-year old scotch. I will stick to the meditations that have some true substance - the Rosary, the Chaplet of Divine Mercy, etc.

A person wonders if these syncretists simply smoked way too much of the cheap stuff back in '68 and addled their brains!

Pitiful. Plain sorry tired pitiful. These "religious" could be the typical ECUSA "religious"; there is essentially no difference between them.

[franky]

I am glad I go into my small room, lock the door and close the windows and pray to my Lord. Reading and hearing such apostacy gets my BP even higher.

A day of reckoning is close at hand. Our Lord is a loving God but also a just God. Pray that He spare the Saints.

[baldie]

>>Many Christian have found Zen to be a valuable instrument for progressing in the spiritual life. By coming to focus on the present moment through the practice of the techniques of Zen meditation, the Christian can become aware of God’s immediate loving presence<<

I prefer to practice the presence of God according to the writings of Brother Lawrence. I find it far more direct and effective to continually communicate with God, instead of falling back on Zen techniques which were never intended to be used in a Christian context.

Christendom is filled with much thinking on prayer and meditation. Personally, I think it best to use what I find in it first before attempting to "fit" the practices of another religion.

[Maximilian]

Do we remember how we all felt the immediate loving presence of our parents, as we were bent over awaiting the first swat of the ordained punishment about to be rendered? I wonder what immediate loving presence is about to befall the Jesuit Order.

LOL. "The loving presence of divine justice about to be executed." Yes, it would be very salutary for more Jesuits (and Trappists -- and the rest of the bunch) to experience that.

[Maximilian]

Zen is also a way of communicating with the god-within.

Dead wrong. Zen is a way of communicating the demons within. Zen is absolutely unable to lead you to God.

"Good and evil have no self nature.
Holy and unholy are empty words.
In front of the door is the land of stillness and light."

It is simply not possible to reconcile this kind of approach with Christianity, which is as diametrically opposite as it's possible to be, based as it is on the concept that Good and Evil DO have natures of their own and in fact are persons, and that holy and unholy are much more than empty words.

[Maximilian]

A person wonders if these syncretists simply smoked way too much of the cheap stuff back in '68 and addled their brains!

I know from personal acquaintance with some of these people that you're not far off the mark. However, it wasn't the smoking that addled their brains, but the psychedelics. They were mostly ex-hippies who had done a lot of acid. And then later, ecstasy became popular among them, because it fit in with the environment in which Zen meditation paralyzes your critical moral faculties and creates an ethic of "Everything is holy to the enlightened being."

[dmz]

methinks the Trappists have gotten into their reserve. The brew, that is.

[OpusatFR]

"Zen is also a way of communicating with the god-within."

Ummm, yeah I know that. That's why the lower case g.

[ahadams2]

okay, okay - give the guy a motorcycle already - just get him out of here!:-)

[stripes1776]

Zen is also a way of communicating with the god-within.

Perhaps you communicate with the god-within, but there is no god in Zen. There is no god in any school of Buddhism. In Buddhism, if you have some cummunication with god, whether within or without, you are under an illusion. You must renounce all cummunication with god; you must renounce god. There is no god in Buddhism.

Why do you distort Zen in order to explain your experience of God?

[NeoCaveman]

There was a time when Christians would sooner die than spinkle a little incence to false gods sadly those days are long gone. (Sigh)