Fr. Kevin Hunt Installed as Zen Teacher

North American Benedictine and Cistercian monasteries of men and women. ^

[Land of the Irish]

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[Dominick]

Many Christian have found Zen to be a valuable instrument for progressing in the spiritual life. By coming to focus on the present moment through the practice of the techniques of Zen meditation, the Christian can become aware of God’s immediate loving presence

Dang!
You mean I have been wasting my time with those Rosaries and Masses? Does this mean the Trappists are going to start learning how to fight unarmed?

I should have been following the Wu-Li Masters, not reading Imitation of Christ.

Lets hope this isn't going to create a new method of Communion:
If you can pluck the Body of Christ from my hand....

[bonaventura]

You know, I thought my Catholic education was horrendous, and was definitely lacking something. I had no idea what it was- no training in apologetics, no Latin, no scripture, no reading of the Fathers nor Doctors of the Church. Sure, all of those things were lacking, but what has really been missing from Catholic schools is, it has now occurred to me, formal training in Buddhism from a Priest/"Zen Master". Yeah, that's it! This will most surely bring us forth from this crisis of faith that Cardinal Ratzinger and the gang have waxed so eloquently about.

What on earth are these people doing to God's Church?!?!

[ahadams2]

okay boys and girls, can you say "syncretism"? there...I knew you could!

[stripes1776]

By coming to focus on the present moment through the practice of the techniques of Zen meditation, the Christian can become aware of God’s immediate loving presence.”

That statement is rather puzzling, since there is no God in Buddhism, Zen or otherwise.

[broadsword]

By coming to focus on the present moment through the practice of the techniques of Zen meditation, the Christian can become aware of God’s immediate loving presence.

The Christian can become aware of God’s immediate loving presence by kneeling in front of the Blessed Sacrament or by partaking of any of the other sacraments, not by embracing false religions.

"The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. But the hired hand runs away when the sheep comes." --Jesus

Who is shepherding the flock on earth; a good shepherd or a hired hand? Is it too much to ask why these heretic wolves are given free reign to gorge themselves on the innocent lambs right in the sheepfold?

Lord Jesus, save us from the mitered wolves and their hired hands!

[xJones]

okay boys and girls, can you say "syncretism"? there...I knew you could!

What about "the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance"?

[AskStPhilomena]

I remember many years ago when "in the spirit of Vatican 2" our high school invited a practitioner of zen to give a talk as part of a series on different religions.
Here are some of the nebulous answers we were given:
"Zen is the sound of no hands clapping"
"Zen is the shade under an oak tree"
This same wacko related to us some stories about "attaining enlightenment"...
"Before you attain enlightenment mountains are mountains and rivers are rivers. While you're in the process of enlightment, mountains are no longer mountains and rivers are no longer rivers. Once you attain enlightment, mountains are once again mountains and rivers are once again rivers".
"In their quest for enlightment 2 young men sat staring at a flag-pole for over a week. Finally one of them said, "The flag is moving". Some time later the other responded, "No, it is the wind that is moving". Finally, a master of zen who had been watching the 2 men corrected them both, "No, it is your mind that is moving" - and they were instantly enlightened".
Go figure.

[broadsword]

LOL! My favorite teAchiNG came from a Hindu Guru: "All is nothing, and nothing is all, and I know nothing!" (followed by a tittering laugh, of course). I laughed too, but not WITH him.

[broadsword]

HEY! Maybe that goofy Hindu Guru is a Catholic Bishop by now. Maybe he will be the next Pope! Hari, Hari! Krishna, Krishna! Body of Christ! Guru, Guru! Ooooooooooooommmmmmmmm!

[AskStPhilomena]

I remember Fr. Peter-Hans Kolvenbach, the superior general of the Society of Jesus. He's the guy who forbade Father Joseph Fessio from any involvement in San Francisco's Campion College - and posted him off to Santa Teresita Hospital (now closed) in Duarte, California to serve as hospital chaplain.
Given the sorry state of the Jesuit order, it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that the superior general would endorse a false religion (in obedience to the holy father's example perhaps?)

[broadsword]

Here, let me get it started for the Dorkamada Brownshirt Club; "Your'e a schizmatic! Shut up! Don't post any more! You will burn in hell! Burn in HELLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!"

[AskStPhilomena]

Careful! One of our liberated/enlightened brethren is probably already looking for an excuse to have this thread pulled.

[broadsword]

But, don't you see that every thread critical of the liberal modernist Amchurch is really about whether or not YOU are a wicked excommunicated SSPX schismatic sedevacantist devil? And, of course, accusing those who have never been to, or even heard of an SSPX Mass, other than reading about them here, of being the same sort of devil? It's the Dorkemada thing: lie, libel, spam, bear false witness, act haughty and self-righteous, lie some more, screech and defame, while covering for every foul Amchurch odor... oh, and lie some more. (It makes 'em feel CYBER-TOUGH! and much better about being failures and losers in the real world.)

[broadsword]

(Dean of Sanity and Truth--Dorkemada Brownshirt Club)
Die, SSPXer! DIIIIIIIIIIIIE!

[AskStPhilomena]

"bear false witness, act haughty and self-righteous, lie some more, screech and defame, while covering for every foul Amchurch odor... oh, and lie some more."

That's a pretty good description of Steinbock - the bishop under scrutiny here...
http://www.dioceseoffresno.org/letters/20040701knxtcommunion.html

[broadsword]

But the mission of the Church is to teach and propose the truth, not to impose it.

What the heck? When did Jesus become the way, the suggestion and the life?

[AskStPhilomena]

Oops, I lie - wrong thread.
Steinbeck relates to the Lastiri thread.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1171532/posts

[Cvengr]

"By coming to focus on the present moment through the practice of the techniques of Zen meditation, the Christian can become aware of God’s immediate loving presence'"

This is actually a very true statement. Whenever one of His own falls away, our loving God disciplines the Christian just as a loving father disciplines his children when they disobey.

Do we remember how we all felt the immediate loving presence of our parents, as we were bent over awaiting the first swat of the ordained punishment about to be rendered?

I wonder what immediate loving presence is about to befall the Jesuit Order.