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Priests 'In Orgy' at Seminary
news.scotsman.com ^ | July 12, 2004

Posted on 07/12/2004 10:26:32 AM PDT by Land of the Irish

Roman Catholic leaders in Austria called an emergency meeting today after officials discovered a vast cache of photos and videos allegedly depicting young priests having sex at a seminary.

About 40,000 photographs and an undisclosed number of films, including child pornography, were downloaded on computers at the seminary in St Poelten, about 50 miles west of Vienna, the respected news magazine Profil reported.

Officials with the local diocese declined to comment but were meeting privately on the scandal, Austrian state television reported.

It said the seminary’s director, the Rev Ulrich Kuechl, and his deputy, Wolfgang Rothe, had resigned.

The Austrian Bishops Conference issued a statement today pledging a full and swift investigation.

“Anything that has to do with homosexuality or pornography has no place at a seminary for priests,” it said.

Church officials discovered the material on a computer at the seminary, Profil said. It published several images purportedly showing young priests and their instructors kissing and fondling each other and engaging in orgies and sex games.

The child porn came mostly from web sites based in Poland, the magazine said.

Bishop Kurt Krenn, a conservative churchman who oversees the St Poelten Diocese, told Austrian television he had seen photos of seminary leaders in sexual situations with students. Krenn, however, dismissed the photos as “silly pranks” that “had nothing to do with homosexuality”.

A group of St. Poelten Diocese officials planned to ask the Vatican to remove Krenn as bishop, Austrian radio reported.

Vatican spokesman Ciro Benedettini told the Austria Press Agency that the Holy See had no comment.

Krenn, 68, issued a statement calling the accusations groundless while conceding that he “may have made some wrong personnel decisions” at the seminary.


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To: sinkspur

"no matter how much I dreaded it,"

What is there to dread Deacon?


101 posted on 07/12/2004 6:57:45 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: narses
Hit the button. The Mods will find no attack; only a disagreement that you have no other option than attending an SSPX Mass.

Do you have other options, narses? Where do you live, and I'll bet I can find a few.

102 posted on 07/12/2004 6:59:14 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: narses
What is there to dread Deacon?

I do not desire to attend the Tridentine Mass. It is a personal preference. If you do, you should find an Indult, not attend an SSPX or independent chapel.

103 posted on 07/12/2004 7:00:23 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: sinkspur; narses
I'm disagreeing that you have no options. You do, you just choose not to exercise them.

Leaving the profane masses I've had to suffer aside, if taking communion from the likes of you is an option then there really are NO options. The thought of you, or someone like you putting a host in my mouth would send me screaming from the chapel.

I'm truly sorry to have to tell you this, but it's the truth.

104 posted on 07/12/2004 7:02:52 PM PDT by AAABEST (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: sinkspur

Perhaps you and your friends should be a little less concerned where traditional posters live. Why is your posse so curious?


105 posted on 07/12/2004 7:04:23 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: sinkspur

An Indult? In my area that would be an Indult shared between a NO mess and a Lutheran service. Sorry, no.

"Dread" is an interesting word. Have you attended any protestant services Deacon? Any pagan services?


106 posted on 07/12/2004 7:05:15 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: sinkspur

As for your attacks, they are NOT about options Deacon, they are clear ad hominem attempts to attack me and my faith. How does where I attend Mass relate to this thread? I will ask the Mods to rule on this as your attacks have been picked up by others. Your attacks have become a running sore here.


107 posted on 07/12/2004 7:06:51 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: AAABEST
if taking communion from the likes of you is an option then there really are NO options. The thought of you, or someone like you putting a host in my mouth would send me screaming from the chapel.

You commit the heresy of thinking that the minister somehow affects the efficacy of the sacrament.

It is no wonder you align yourself with a schismatic sect.

108 posted on 07/12/2004 7:07:01 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: narses
How does where I attend Mass relate to this thread?

The Church is clear on when one may attend an SSPX chapel. If you have no other options you may.

I suspect you have other options.

These are not attacks. Ask the Mods to rule. They'll most likely pull the thread.

At this point, that would be a good idea.

109 posted on 07/12/2004 7:09:24 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: narses
In my area that would be an Indult shared between a NO mess and a Lutheran service.

Is there an Indult in your diocese or not?

110 posted on 07/12/2004 7:10:19 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: sinkspur

In the next Diocese Sink, but what has where I go to Mass have to do with ANYTHING? It is A PERSONAL ATTACK. Nothing more.


111 posted on 07/12/2004 7:12:16 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: sinkspur

"Ask the Mods to rule. They'll most likely pull the thread. "

That's what you want, right? I have asked you to STOP questioning my faith. You persist. Why?


112 posted on 07/12/2004 7:13:16 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: narses; sinkspur; ninenot
The problem the other two natterers I've pinged have with you is that you're becoming too effective a poster for them to bear. They can't stand the fact that they're slowly but surely losing the argument.

Ninenot would like us to think otherwise, but he and sinkspur are one of the same, two peas in a pod. They both are in loving total communion with the homos, the modernists, the apostates, the leftist and others who have a deep hatred of the SSPX.

They ought to have an orgy already. An orgy of bankrupt and discredited ideas.

113 posted on 07/12/2004 7:14:23 PM PDT by AAABEST (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; ...

"Perhaps you and your friends should be a little less concerned where traditional posters live. Why is your posse so curious?"

It appears the Deacon wants this thread pulled. One may wonder why.


114 posted on 07/12/2004 7:14:28 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: narses; ninenot
You slammed ninenot and made sure you hit me with some reference to slandering you about the SSPX a few days ago.

You brought it onto this thread, not me. I'm merely asking you if you have other options. Do you?

115 posted on 07/12/2004 7:14:53 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: narses
I'm not questioning your faith; I'm asking you if you have options for Mass other than an SSPX chapel.

I do.

116 posted on 07/12/2004 7:15:50 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: sinkspur
You commit the heresy of thinking that the minister somehow affects the efficacy of the sacrament.

Well the minister can affect the "efficacy" and you know it, but I didn't say that was the case with you.

Maybe I just don't want your fingers near my mouth.

117 posted on 07/12/2004 7:17:26 PM PDT by AAABEST (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: sinkspur

Nope Deacon, I CALLED ninenot as I did you on that personal attack. That's all. Since I mentioned you, I pinged you. You then took up the cudgel.

Tell us all why WHERE I ATTEND MASS MATTERS?


118 posted on 07/12/2004 7:18:17 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: narses
Why? Because modernists don't want Catholics to know about the current, unabated corruption in the Church. It might make JP II's papacy look bad.

The other fact that the posse wants names and addresses of traditionalists is flat out disturbing.

119 posted on 07/12/2004 7:21:15 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: narses

The FR Living Magisterium has the self-created right to rule on the Catholic status of posters here on FR. Their authority surpasses those in Rome.


120 posted on 07/12/2004 7:24:07 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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