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Hating Mel (Bill O'Reilly's take on the passion over The Passion)
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| Feb. 19, 04
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Posted on 02/21/2004 8:16:04 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
Even Abraham Foxman, the militant leader of the Anti-Defamation League, now admits the film is not anti-Semitic.When did he admit this?
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posted on
02/21/2004 8:19:19 AM PST
by
Paul Atreides
(Is it really so difficult to post the entire article?)
To: churchillbuff
The brutal attacks on Gibson may themselves create bad will. Yes, of course.
The movie is headed for blockbusterhood. Attacks on it and on Gibson are only driving audiences into the theaters.
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posted on
02/21/2004 8:23:55 AM PST
by
PoisedWoman
(My other tagline is in the shop.)
To: PoisedWoman
The movie is headed for blockbusterhood. Attacks on it and on Gibson are only driving audiences into the theaters. It is. I am considering going to the movies myself and I make it a rule not to go to movie theaters. The theaters and most importantly the crowd (and associated cell phones) SUCK here in Memphis. I went so far as to add a digital projector and sound system to my family room so I did not have to suffer that BS. We are well on our way to recouping the cost in dinners, tickets, and babysitter fees/
This movie will be like the epics from Charlton Heston. I can't wait!
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posted on
02/21/2004 8:37:53 AM PST
by
Nov3
To: Paul Atreides
When did he admit this? I believe he modified his position to the film will cause anti-Semitism.
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posted on
02/21/2004 8:42:15 AM PST
by
Nov3
To: churchillbuff; Yehuda; yonif; SJackson
Vatican II on the Church's relationship with the Jews:
http://www.christusrex.org/www1/CDHN/v9.html -- from
http://www.christusrex.org/www1/CDHN/v1.html Notice how it doesn't say that the Church ever had anti-semitic doctrines. Would it be fair to say that it was individual Christians who allowed themselves to misinterpret Christianity's story? There is more than one way to look at this.
I don't see Gibson's film as anti-semitic, but I think it's important for Jewish people to have their say about it.
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posted on
02/21/2004 8:50:06 AM PST
by
risk
To: Paul Atreides
In the interview with Diane Sawyer, Foxman said that Mel Gibson is not an anti-semite. He said his fear is that the movie has the potential to stir up anti-semitic feelings.
I believe he also said he was still concerned about the portrayal of some of the Jewish characters being shown as urging the crucifixion of Christ.
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posted on
02/21/2004 8:53:48 AM PST
by
MSSC6644
To: churchillbuff
So is the argument that Christians should delete these passages from their holy scripture? Or just ignore them?
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posted on
02/21/2004 8:54:08 AM PST
by
Norman Conquest
(I don't mind being the smartest man on the planet. I just wish it wasn't this one.)
To: Paul Atreides
When did he admit this? I saw him admit it on TV. I think it was on O'Reilly's show or maybe it was on Capital Report or Hardball. Upon hearing it, my reaction was gee if you are worried about what anti-semitism actions might result from the film maybe you shouldnt have given it so much publicity. I doubt many would have heard about or had much interest in seeing a violent religious movie that was filmed in aramaic and latin.
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posted on
02/21/2004 9:14:05 AM PST
by
Dave S
To: churchillbuff
To: Nov3
Once you set up even a farily modest home theatre, as I have (and the costs get less all the time), it is very hard to go back to the public theatres. I don't know why people behave as they do in movie theatres...although one of my theories is that the individuals in the audience are seized with the need to divert attn from the screen to themselves, to become an alternative performance...an exercise in vanity.
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posted on
02/21/2004 9:58:05 AM PST
by
Mamzelle
To: Mamzelle
No, what you are seeing is the result of two generations of television. I have seen the same behavior in live performances and speeches. My sister was once at a training meeting and while the trainer was speaking, the young gal next to her just blurted out to my sister "I like your shoes. Where'd you get them?" They were sitting in the front row.
I have seen this behavior in churches as well, where people get up and go to the restroom during the sermon and people bring doughnuts and coffee into the sanctuary.
To: risk
Notice how it doesn't say that the Church ever had anti-semitic doctrines. Would it be fair to say that it was individual Christians who allowed themselves to misinterpret Christianity's story? There is more than one way to look at this. You're not trying to deny that the Roman Catholic Church has ever engaged in anti-semitic policies at the highest levels, are you? Because I can cite examples all day long, starting with the 1715 "Edict Against the Hebrews" issued by Pope Pius VI.
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posted on
02/21/2004 10:13:59 AM PST
by
Heyworth
To: churchillbuff
BUMP
To: churchillbuff
Seeing A Bridge Too Far or Saving Private Ryan didn't stir up any anti-German sentiments in me so why are all these liberals worried about Passion bringing up a minor wave of anti-Semitism?Oh....I know why: transference.
It never ceases to amaze me how much liberals hate Jews. Sure, the right has its' anti-Semites, but by and large they're confined to the fringe. The lefts hatred of Jews is mainstream....they don't often talk about it, but it amazes me when I hear lefties start spewing hatred of Jews.
I'm not saying I'm perfect....I have my prejudices: I can't say I'm all that fond of Arabs right now.
But I'm certainly not going to couch my prejudice in accusations against others.
To: Norman Conquest
"Over the last 2000 years, four words have fueled anti-Semitism: 'The Jews killed Christ.' We are concerned about this message wrapped up in a popular film that's couched as gospel truth and produced by a popular, creative genius." -- Abraham H. Foxman
http://www.adl.org/adl.asp
Abe Foxman is an EVIL MAN. I hope his FUNDRAISING is going well. He thinks he should have a say in Mel Gibson's INTERRUPTATION of the Scriptures. I don't remember him wanting to rewrite "Schindler's List". I also didn't realize how many Jews hated Christians (behind our backs). I am SHOCKED!
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posted on
02/21/2004 10:30:42 AM PST
by
kcvl
To: Heyworth
I didn't know about any of this. Thank you.
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posted on
02/21/2004 10:38:08 AM PST
by
risk
To: Nov3
"This movie will be like the epics from Charlton Heston. I can't wait!"
Like you, I tired of the movie theatre scene, and I spent a considerable amount of cash on my home theatre system; which I enjoy immensely
Having said that, this is one movie Im going to the theatre to see, and I cant wait! The Passion of the Christ, is going to be a blockbuster; and those on the left know it, thats why weve been hearing all this carping and whining for lo these many, many months.
And when The Passion comes out on DVD Ill be placing it right alongside all of the Charlton Heston epics currently in my collection
I look forward to seeing the movie in the theatre and owning the DVD.
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posted on
02/21/2004 10:43:52 AM PST
by
gatorgriz
("The world is full of bastards - the number ever increasing the further one gets from Missoula, MT")
To: kcvl
"I also didn't realize how many Jews hated Christians (behind our backs). I am SHOCKED!"
Let's not overreact here. I think that it is more accurate to say how liberals hate Christians. It is unfortunate that many Jews are Liberals, but it would wrong to single out Jews in this regard. True Christians are well aware of the divisions within Christianity.
What is needed is for Conservatives to unite together, both Christians and Jews, to be agents of change for good and start to illustrate how liberalism is a poor and dangerous ideology, based on false beliefs and bigotry.
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posted on
02/21/2004 10:51:12 AM PST
by
LA Conservative
(evil triumphs when good men do nothing)
To: LA Conservative
Maybe you should read some of the things that have been said on this website about Christians from "our friends" the Jews. I doubt most of them are liberals. I can't believe some of the things that have been said. It was a wake-up for me.
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posted on
02/21/2004 11:00:54 AM PST
by
kcvl
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