'The Passion of the Christ' (Hugh Hewitt on impact of Mel Gibson's controversial new film )

WorldNetDaily ^ | January 29, 2004 | Hugh Hewitt

[pegleg]

Sorry, I was being sarcastic.

I realized that after I posted. I should have directed my question to Scrutator.

[BlackElk]

YOPIOS, YOPIOS, dance to the muuuusic!

[BlackElk]

Is that why the great commission is to "Go ye therefore and teach all nations (but only the elect because the others are just worthless and hell-destined trash and there is nothing you or they can do about it!) baptizing (only the elect) in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost"? Does your church do missionary work in the Third World or in our inner cities among the poor, the naked, the hungry, the ill, the physically wretched of the earth, like the RCC does and like so many reformed churches do? Why?

Do you believe that whoever does good for the least of these His brethren does this good unto Him? Why not?

Do you REALLY believe that salvation is a life or death issue? If you believe that salvation or damnation is predestined and that none of us can do anything about it, it doesn't sound like an issue at all. It sounds like a done deal, at least in your imagination.

[Vets_Husband_and_Wife]

Arguing is fruitless no matter who ya do it with, so you are correct. :o)

[pegleg]

Surely they who have already been saved, needed to hear the Gospel of Christ in the first instance for them to be brought to salvation?

Any exceptions?

I see no evidence or proof in the Scriptures that the granting of salvation is dependent on human choice.

"He that shall persevere unto the end, he shall be saved." Matt 10:22

How do you interpret this verse?

[Vets_Husband_and_Wife]

I have had this discussion before on FR. I believe that I have free will. Not everyone believes the same way. Some believe you are either going to be saved or not. They believe in pre-destination.

I don't.

I think a person with feelings that they will be a child molester, can change those feelings with the help of Christ. Same goes for a homosexual.

I even feel a murderer can be saved.

So yes, I believe in free will.

I chose to be saved. That is my belief.

I could choose to live a life of sin all the rest of my life. Party, drink, do drugs,.. destroy this vessel.

You can be a calvinist, a Jehovah Witness. But you will never convince me that you way is the way. NEVER.

BTW, the man who started the Jehovah Witness church, he predicted a time the world would end. It came and went. So tell me,.. how does that work?

Do you mind telling me what your religious belief is?

Thanks

[Vets_Husband_and_Wife]

Post 52 was beautiful. Thank you.

[Vets_Husband_and_Wife]

Thank you for ANOTHER excellent explanation of "free will".

Wow.. I'm saving all of these!!

God Bless! VH&W

[Polycarp IV]

You will most certainly spend several additional nanoseconds in your passage through Purgatory for putting YOPIOS to that tune and implanting it in my mind this night. I hope you are proud of this evil deed you have wrought.

[dangus]

Some of those old Jewish guys sure knew how to write :^D

[ninenot]

Your post betrays a massive ignorance of 1) logic and 2) theology.

But thanks, anyway.

Christ's sacrifice was sufficient for ALL MEN, period. If you don't believe that, you are not a Christian--and certainly not a Catholic.

So: exactly which denomination did YOU start yesterday?

[Polycarp IV]

always ensure that you dialog with all of the Scriptures as your =only= basis of reference.

Why would we be so foolish as to do that. Its not scriptural to dialog with all of the Scriptures as your =only= basis of reference.

16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. [2 Tim 3]

17Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.[John 17]

Sorry, but even these fine excerpt fails to prove "sola scriptura" or the sufficiency of scripture alone.

In the New Testament, every single word of which was written by individual members of the Catholic Church, the word Church is used 110 times to refer to the VISIBLE BODY of Christian Catholics. In the New Testament, the word Scripture(s) is used 54 times.

In ONLY ONE of these 54 uses is it even POSSIBLE that it refers to the NT itself :

(2 Peter 3) "And account the longsuffering of our Lord, salvation: as also our most dear brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, hath written to you:

16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction.

17 You therefore, brethren, knowing these things before, take heed, lest being led aside by the error of the unwise, you fall from your own steadfastness.

Isn't it INTERESTING that the SOLE SCRIPTURE reference for Scripture having to do with the New Testament POSITIVELY REFUTES SOLA SCRIPTURA and private interpretation of scripture?

[ninenot]

"Y" is for the YOU you only think of...

"O" is for the "Oh!!" you give (yourself in the mirror)

"P" is for the lousy pfallen, (others)...

[Polycarp IV]

[GirlShortstop]

YOPIOS, YOPIOS, dance to the muuuusic!

ROFLMAO!   that's absolutely classic, BlackElk!

   All we need is a Luther... to make people move their feet.... 
   I'm gonna add a little Cal-vin and make it easy to move your feet...    

:-)

[BlackElk]

ROFLMAO!

[BlackElk]

Likewise, I am sure. We really must work up a Catholic songbook for these occasions.