Been there!!! HA!
Sorry, those guys are "lace curtain Irish" and not the bogtrotters I am descended from and/or worked with. Plus they are way more fun than the lace curtain types. Gimme a bog trotter any day. ;-)
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Beyond not being much of an endorsement, I do not think it is accurate. I base this on two measures. One, the volume of complaints made via the AR system. Only the immigration threads compare, and those have dropped off of late as people have respected (to some degree) the efforts to restore some decorum. The number of complaints indicates that the users think there is a problem (or, possibly, that the users are complainers without merit).I find the "attacks" no worse really than what goes on the main forum.I'm afraid that's not much of an endorsement for what is mostly discourse between Christians.
The second measure is my own estimation. I have read more than my share of the threads in this forum. I do not participate in them, at all, because of how the threads go. So back to the parenthetical possibility above, I don't think it is just that the complainers are button happy. What my own eyes see meshes with the volume of abuse reports. And the other moderators and Jim also see it this way.
SM had it exactly right when he said it is not too much to ask for courtesy and decorum.
Then how could you possibly be objective? I demand an Atheist!
</stupid joke>
This sounds good. I just hope I'm not the first one to run afoul of it.
It's a sad irony that the religious forum has become an embarrassment to FR.
Thank you in advance for taking in what will most likely be a thankless job. May God bless you too, especially in your new endeavor.
If you were to look for those vineyards today, look for labels bearing the names Lynch, MacCarthy, Dillon, Phelan, Hennessy and Barton. The Bartons reportedly still consider themselves Irish, and carry Irish passports. Ownership has changed hands for the other chateaux. Still a piece of history lives, even in their labels. Michel Lynch, you see, fought with James II at the Battle of the Boyne.
Other Irish emigrés have taken their places in wine producing countries around the world. James Concannon, of the Aran Islands, settled in California's Livermore Valley in the 1880s. Others vintners of Irish heritage in California include Murphy-Goode and Kenwood (owned by the Lee family). New Zealand's Hunter and Forrest houses have Irish ties through Ernie Hunter's Belfast roots and Brigid Forrest's Cork connection.
This story of a piece of the Irish diaspora has come together at the International Museum of Wine housed in Desmond Castle, Kinsale, Co. Cork. Even if you can't pay a visit, consider searching out a bottle from one of the Wine Geese the next time you're ready to uncork a bottle. It might bring some history to mind.
Coleen, you seem like a nice Catholic Woman. Sadly, I must say ANATHEMA SIT
I have Emailed the Pope about your perfidy.
Thank you for offering a perfect example of what I've been talking about.
You have every right to disagree with and object to what we're trying to accomplish here; no one is trying to take that away. And we, as moderators, have every right, even obligation, to react to what you say in the way the owner has instructed us. But, rather than coin an insulting phrase ("Free Republic Civilization of Love."), which were I in a bad mood might result in a different reaction, why not come directly to me with your objections, seeking clarification?
Especially since the only mentions of love in the announcements are quotations of the commandmants of Jesus (with one paraphrase from the Apostle Paul). Surely you aren't faulting Jesus - are you?
(If you want on or off my Catholic Ping List, please send a Freepmail.)
Excommunications are not kinder and gentler in accord with the new Religion Forum guidelines. They imply heresy or apostacy on the part of the other poster, something dat vill not be tolerated. (Good thing I'm not a mod, you'd have "Strike One" against you already, buddy.)
If I drink wine from a box with a spigot, am I Anathema too?
Who . . . are . . . you . . . oo . . . oo oo . . . oo oo oo . . . I really wanna know....
Oh man, that's great. Laughing out loud.
Been there!!! HA!
Sorry, those guys are "lace curtain Irish" and not the bogtrotters I am descended from and/or worked with. Plus they are way more fun than the lace curtain types. Gimme a bog trotter any day. ;-)
I'm thinking of things like "70 times 70", "turn the other cheek", etc., etc.
What we see happening, however, is someone who just has to get in his/her "tit-for-tat" first, then hit the abuse button. That puts everyone in a no win position, including the moderator.
It seems to me that it has worked pretty well, although most of the bashing I see is in still the main forum, usually of the Catholic Church by non-Catholics, with a bit of Mormon-bashing thrown in for good measure.
Is Islam-bashing off-limits now? I thought Jim had pretty much said he had no aversion to it some time ago.
"NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts." ... Unfortunately, however, personal attacks are rampant.Simply eliminating words like you and your from one's posts would go a long way towards solving this particular problem. JMO.
Good luck!
I'm going to name my next dog "Anathema".
On the contrary, there are some of Jewish beliefs I have met in the forum, and certainly we've seen a Wiccan or two crop up from time to time. I think the reason we see mostly Christians is because (at least in the Reformed variety) the Bible not only speaks to personal responsibilities, but also to ecclesiastical and governmental responsibility to God. Samuel Rutherford's classic work Lex, Rex: or The Law and the Prince, directly challenged the idea that government is above the law - specifically, God's Law. As far as I know, only Judaism, Christianity, and Islam have any sort of codified ethics for the corporate moral behavior of men (note that I'm not saying they advocate the same set of ethics). I believe this is why you don't find other religious advocates participating on a political board, at least to the extent that these three do.
How do we Christians live up to the requirements of the Great Commission if we only talk (or fight) amongst ourselves?
How can we Christians live up to that part of the Commission which states "...make Disciples of all Nations...", if we limit our discussions to only personal, pietistic matters? "Nations" are corporate and political entities. Nations are also to be discipled.
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