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Wisconsin Catholic Lawmakers Seek Victim Status In Feud With Bishop
Catholic League For Religious and Civil Rights ^ | December 5, 2003

Posted on 12/06/2003 11:02:57 PM PST by EsclavoDeCristo

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To: TotusTuus; Northern Yankee; saradippity
Jay, have you seen this yet, re: WI?

He was on nobody's short list for the appointment. That "hand-picked" connotation by the Pope has a nice ring to it. I'm telling you, Phoenix just might blossom under his care. He has a core of young and upcoming orthodox Priests scattered throughout several parishes to assist his oversight. The future looks bright, very bright!

We can only continue to pray for our diocese's future!

21 posted on 12/07/2003 5:04:12 PM PST by kstewskis (80 more days until Lent and "The Passion" is released...and no I am NOT giving up Mel for Lent!)
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To: kstewskis
Hi Karen...

I hadn't been aware of the pope handpicking the Bishop, but am hopeful this will be the case for our Diocease, where Bishop Burke is leaving.

Met with a priest friend of the family today and he's hoping they also bring in someone from the outside.

The new Bishop will have some work to do that Burke didn't quite tidy up. Can't say more than that, but our diocease could be faced with some hard decisions in the not to distant future.

22 posted on 12/07/2003 6:35:06 PM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom.... needs a soldier !)
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To: RobbyS
His staff. And that guy doesn't do much in advance. In fact he doesn't do much at all.
23 posted on 12/07/2003 8:46:10 PM PST by Desdemona (Kempis' Imitation of Christ online! http://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imitation.html)
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To: Desdemona
He had better hope he is a safe district.
24 posted on 12/07/2003 8:49:12 PM PST by RobbyS (XP)
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To: TotusTuus
JP II and the Congregation on Bishops have been racking up a terrific stream of appointments to American sees lately. I have noted the appointment of Archbishop Olmstead, who will be a major improvement over his thoroughly AmChurch predecessor.

We now have adjacent dioceses of Chicago, Rockford, Peoria, La Crosse, Madison and Milwaukee under solid prelates, St. Louis helps us to sandwich the remaining AmChurch dioceses in Illinois. Imesch of Joliet should be the next AmChurch soldier to topple. We need to add Green Bay on the north, Springfield in southern Illinois, reach out to South Bend, Indiana and Iowa.

If Bishop Olmstead has a good core of young orthodox priests and develops more, maybe Cardinal Rigali (formerly Vice Chairman of the Congregation on Bishops) can cooperate in establishing a similar Kumbaya-free zone in the southwest, by seeing some of them named as bishops in the area.

Do you know what happened to former Bishop Garner (?) of Wichita who preceded Bishop Olmstead there? He was a pro-life warrior and a relatively young and newly appointed bishop when I became aware of him during trials of pro-lifers at Wichita in 1991.

25 posted on 12/07/2003 11:34:09 PM PST by BlackElk (Dickie Durbin is a "Catholic" anti-Catholic bigot. Time for an old-fashioned, ummm, inquiry!)
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To: RobbyS
Lacy Clay more or less inhereted his district from his father, Bill Clay. We can't get either one out with dynamite.
26 posted on 12/08/2003 4:32:30 AM PST by Desdemona (Kempis' Imitation of Christ online! http://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imitation.html)
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To: BlackElk
JP II and the Congregation on Bishops have been racking up a terrific stream of appointments to American sees lately.

Very true. He's also lining up the next group of cardinals. Of the ten metropolitans, at least five will be open in the next 10 years (and none too soon, either). Think of who the archbishops are in places like Denver, St. Louis, Phoenix. We're not going to have them very long, but like Cardinal George did, they have some massive messes to clean up. It's not going to be easy, but these men will stay the course.
27 posted on 12/08/2003 4:37:38 AM PST by Desdemona (Kempis' Imitation of Christ online! http://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imitation.html)
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To: EsclavoDeCristo
Regrettably, you will have to wait until he finishes his assignment in St Louis, which begins early in January 04.

However, you could move to St Louis and enjoy the fruits of Catholicism...
28 posted on 12/08/2003 6:15:05 AM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: GeronL
The lawmakers need to be "picked on" by this Bishop in order to cast the Bishop as the bad guy.

That's why the legislators and their slimy mouthpieces and attorneys use the term 'political' disagreement as opposed to 'moral' disagreement.

Obviously, the poor little things would lose, big-time, were the issue cast as a moral issue.
29 posted on 12/08/2003 6:28:19 AM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: Salvation
It would seem that these congressmen and legislators have some choices to make.

Their religion

or

a legislative, congressional seat.

Actually, Sal, it's:

their immortal soul

or a legislative/congressional seat.

30 posted on 12/08/2003 6:30:35 AM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: Desdemona
Thewn Clay won't mind being evicted from the Catholic Church. However, I wonder if he/COS will be just smart enough not to make a public response?
31 posted on 12/08/2003 11:23:54 AM PST by RobbyS (XP)
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To: k omalley
Uncle Wally's replacement has not yet been named. An orthodox Bishop would be a real blessing to that Diocese, but his job will be very difficult.
32 posted on 12/08/2003 11:43:41 AM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: BlackElk; Totus Tuus 2
Do you know what happened to former Bishop Garner (?) of Wichita who preceded Bishop Olmstead there?

No, I don't. Apparently we have a new freeper from Wichita who might know. His first post here.

Exquisite taste in screen names ;-)

33 posted on 12/08/2003 12:25:23 PM PST by TotusTuus (pinging all wheatshockers)
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To: BlackElk; Jeff Chandler
JP II and the Congregation on Bishops have been racking up a terrific stream of appointments to American sees lately. ....
We now have adjacent dioceses of Chicago, Rockford, Peoria, La Crosse, Madison and Milwaukee under solid prelates, St. Louis helps us to sandwich the remaining AmChurch dioceses in Illinois. Imesch of Joliet should be the next AmChurch soldier to topple. We need to add Green Bay on the north, Springfield in southern Illinois, reach out to South Bend, Indiana and Iowa.

We need to contact Milton-Bradley/Parker Brothers. You've led me to an idea for a new version of RISK! ;-)

If Bishop Olmstead has a good core of young orthodox priests and develops more, maybe Cardinal Rigali (formerly Vice Chairman of the Congregation on Bishops) ...

All due to 'Jeff Chandler's Pastor who had been the vocations director.

34 posted on 12/08/2003 12:50:23 PM PST by TotusTuus (Who is St. Mary Basha? - Will this be able to change now, Jeff?)
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To: TotusTuus
"JP II and the Congregation on Bishops have been racking up a terrific stream of appointments to American sees lately."

Pardon my ignorance, but is it the case that JP II and the Congregation on Bishops have for decades been pretty much letting the American bishops decide things, but have recently started telling them, "Honk off, we'll appoint whom we think best"?
35 posted on 12/10/2003 3:20:03 AM PST by dsc
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