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Agree. Babies of women illegally in the U.S. should not receive U.S. citizenship.

The only way this will happen is the repeal of the 14th Amedment. "All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside...."

Intended to give citizenship to ex-slaves, has outlived its usefulness in the present form. Should only require a small change, like adding the requirement of citizenship of a parent prior to the birth.

You two are in the same boat with a lot of your fellow Americans. You're reading the 14th Amendment for yourselves (that's commendable), but you're turning to the Liberals for your interpretation (that's not so commendable).

The Fourteenth Amendment Mess

"The Fourteenth Amendment excludes the children of aliens. (The Slaughterhouse Cases (83 U.S. 36 (1873))

"The Fourteenth Amendment draws a distinction between the children of aliens and children of citizens. (Minor V. Happersett (88 U.S. 162 (1874))"

This is real important!!!

The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction" doesn't mean merely that they can be arrested for breaking our laws!!!

"The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" REQUIRES!!! "DIRECT AND IMMEDIATE ALLEGIANCE!!!" to the United States, NOT!!! just physical presence!!!!! (Elk V. Wilkins 112 U.S. 94 (1884))

"There is NO automatic birthright citizenship in a particular case. (Wong Kim Ark Case, 169 U.S. 649 (1898))"

This is real, real important!!!

"In essence, "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" meant, at the time the amendment was written, A PERSON HAVING A RECIPROCAL RELATIONSHIP OF ALLEGIANCE AND PROTECTION WITH THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT!!!!! It was thus understood NOT!!! to apply to persons whose presence in this country is TRANSITORY OR ILLEGAL!!!"

"The Supreme Court has NEVER!!! confirmed birthright citizenship for the children of illegal aliens, temporary workers and tourists!!!" (Plyer V. Doe, 457 U.S. 202, 211 n. 10 (1982))

NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER!!! confirmed birthright citizenship for the children of ILLEGAL ALIENS, TEMPORARY WORKERS and TOURISTS!!! NEVER!!!

I hope this helps. Please straighten out as many others as you can with this information. Your kids aren't going to hear this in school.

The Liberals have really sold us a bill of goods with their interpretation of the 14th. FAIR is taking it to the Supreme Court to get it set straight once and for all.

The only way this will happen is the repeal of the 14th Amendment. "All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside...."

I've been hoping our governmental folks would argue that illegal aliens purposefully do not make themselves "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" and thus the "anchor baby" is not an anchor - merely another illegal alien subject to deportation.