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Rush's Dilemma: The Truth about Oxycontin
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Posted on 10/11/2003 8:30:04 AM PDT by sonsofliberty2000
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To: Two_Sheds
"Because it works, and works very well."
Indeed - "traditional" doctors now have a junkie for a patient with MANY repeat visits and drug companies can boost their sagging earning as patented drugs run out.
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posted on
10/11/2003 10:32:24 AM PDT
by
nmh
To: WKB
I have never taken one. I am familiar with both oxycodone and hydrocodone as well as meperidine for my back which is similar to Rush's but I have not had surgery.
I took drugs as a kid for fun.
I recognize the euphoria even today when I occasionally take one for my back or other severe pain but because of many constraints and simply my personality, I have never made a habit of any drug except nicotine and caffiene. I am blessed that way.
I have seen many folks fall prey to chronic substance abuse. This is usually accompanied by self image issues and a chip on the shoulders....particularly with alcohol. Narcotics abusers often become nihilists by default. Potheads become procrastinating delusions of grandeur types often.
I could go and on.
My best friend ever in my life is an alcoholic who now abuses these very narcotics in question since his pancreas can no longer tolerate drink.
I don't have any answers friend.
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posted on
10/11/2003 10:33:20 AM PDT
by
wardaddy
(I'm thinking.....)
To: J. L. Chamberlain
Wait am minute. You just spouted out the typical blame someone other than the doctor line. The DRUG becames less effective as the PATIENT builds up a tolerance to it SO more is needed and the DOCTOR KNOW THIS - hence your junkie patient is the result. Stop blaming the patient. It IS the doctor who is at fault for prescribing this crap in the first place.
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posted on
10/11/2003 10:36:27 AM PDT
by
nmh
To: nmh
That's the ugly truth OR they wounldn't be prescribing such addictive drugs. That's hardly a fair characterization. Pharma companies and docs are providing drugs that help improve people's lives, and then when those people abuse the drugs you blame the company itself. This is no different from blaming "Big Tobacco" for smokers' illnesses.
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posted on
10/11/2003 10:36:51 AM PDT
by
NittanyLion
(Character Counts)
To: Dane; Lurker
British Government is selling opium to the Chinese today, at this very moment.If a person really wants to take a stroll down that path, you could ask why Afghanistan(US / UK) has recently bumped Burma (China) out of first place in terms of opium production? And where that cash eventually ends up?
To: Devil_Anse
Oxycontin isn't frightening.
What's frightening is the dolts who don't "get" that people in pain shouldn't be held hostage to people who abuse the drug to get high.
The whole point of the pills formulation is to REDUCE a patient's use of narcotics, at the same time more effectively managing pain. The steady time release of a smaller amount of pain medication obviates the need for larger intermittent doses of narcotic pain reliever.
Ironically, considering all the hysteria about how dreadfully addicting oxycontin is, the fact is that it actually reduces the chance a patient will suffer side-effects from the larger doses, and it slows down the development of tolerance to the narcotic.
It's an effective painkiller in the safest, most effective form possible. The patients who need the benefits of the drug are being held hostage to "high" seekers. These are the same cretins who will get high *by any means available*, although they will seek out the cheapest, most effective way to do it....
I am disgusted that anyone would think that patients should suffer, or deal with less effective and less safe (with higher chance of addiction) methods, on account of that level-percentage of the population that will abuse something, ANYTHING, available, to get a euphoric rush.
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posted on
10/11/2003 10:39:33 AM PDT
by
SarahW
To: NittanyLion
Is it true Linda Blair is a libertarian? Because that's what I've heard Have no idea, if she's a Libertarian or not, but you sure acted like her character in "The Exorcist" did when historical facts from the 70's about the leftist/Libertarian drug culture were brought out.
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posted on
10/11/2003 10:39:36 AM PDT
by
Dane
To: At _War_With_Liberals
I don't know how it is in most religions, but the use of recreational drugs is against the covenants we make in mine. If we have a problem with prescription or non-prescription medications, it's something we are supposed to see our bishops about.
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posted on
10/11/2003 10:40:05 AM PDT
by
ChemistCat
(Oklahoman by chance, not Californian by grace of God!)
To: ChemistCat
I misunderstood. I thought you meant that parishioners should talk about prescription drugs with priests.
To: NittanyLion
The medical industry is hardly a legion of saints. Witness the latest spate of commercials to convince adults they have "ADHD"... and while we're at it, we can also look at the perhaps unprecedented child abuse that stems from improperly medicating millions of children for ficticious "diseases" like "ADD". Then we can take a look at the government programs that encourage and subsidize this behavior...
Really, there are no clear-cut good guys or bad guys, when looking at industries or classes of people as a whole.
To: boycott
"It is shocking the percentage of the population that has been described anti-depressents like Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft, etc."
This single comment out of this thread is the most disquieting to me. (I assume you meant to say, "prescribed", yes?)
My 10 year old daughter lives with her mother, a chronically unhappy and manipulative person. Consequently, my daughter has days when she gets pretty bummed out. Her school has taken notice of her moods and declared her "Clinically Depressed". The school district wants to get her onto a Zoloft plan so she can be "balanced". Her mother is in favor because it deflects attention from the true causes of my daughters distress - her dysfunctional mom.
So I get to be the big bad meany obstructionist (feel free to add in any other appropriate adjectives....) because I refuse to go along with this sham.
I have a healthy respect for the consequences of drug use - legitimate & otherwise. Indiscriminate prescription or use goes against the grain for me.
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posted on
10/11/2003 10:43:44 AM PDT
by
rockrr
("Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me")
To: Lurker
I've been taking one form of pain medication or another since surgery in 1994. What my pain management doctor does is to switch my pain meds periodically where no one of them becomes less effective.
Currently I'm taking Panlor SS, Fiorinal, Soma and Elavil. Most days this combination keeps my pain level in between a 3 and 4. Without these meds my pain level would be a 9. I say a 9 because I hope never to experience a 10.
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posted on
10/11/2003 10:44:11 AM PDT
by
Sally'sConcerns
(It's painless to be a monthly donor!)
To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
All of this talk about chronic pain makes me wonder if we haven't evolved into a society which cannot tolerate any pain. How did our ancestors tolerate pain? They had very little to take for it.Have we become nothing but pampered sissies?
I had my entire colon taken out a month ago. Some things HURT. That being said my nurse (who I thought was being a busybody b#tch) convinced my not to take OC due ti its addictive nature once I was discharged. She turned out to be right.
Re the ancestors thing I simply would have died 100 years ago - a slow and painful death I might add. However for the pain alcohol and narcotics have been around quite a while. Ask the Chinese.
To: thoughtomator
Really, there are no clear-cut good guys or bad guys, when looking at industries or classes of people as a whole Very true.
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posted on
10/11/2003 10:47:51 AM PDT
by
NittanyLion
(Character Counts)
To: SarahW
AMEN!!!!!
Great post.
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posted on
10/11/2003 10:48:22 AM PDT
by
ChemistCat
(Oklahoman by chance, not Californian by grace of God!)
To: rockrr
Ex-wives are a bitch. Their self obsessiveness or residual anger at the ex-husband will trump what is best for the child everytime if there is a conflict with said ex-husband.
Divorce/custody lawyers will tell you that even good women do this...it's innate.
Damn, I look so forward to being clear of child support(alimony in reality) in just 3-4 more years. Then my relationship with my daughters will be between them and I as well as my then direct financial contributions.
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posted on
10/11/2003 10:49:31 AM PDT
by
wardaddy
(I'm thinking.....)
To: Dane
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posted on
10/11/2003 10:52:22 AM PDT
by
Lurker
("To expect the government to save you is to be a bystander in your own fate." Mark Steyn)
To: Sally'sConcerns
Why Elavil?
Soma is the best muscle relaxer no doubt....docs don't hand it out so readily anymore. Lots of folks abuse it too.
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posted on
10/11/2003 10:52:23 AM PDT
by
wardaddy
(I'm thinking.....)
To: Stew Padasso
"Good article. A quick scan of Oxycontin in Google News shows what kind of a problem this drug is."
Do you have a url you could provide for a good article on oxycontin that shows the problems? I'd appreciate it.
Thanks.
B.
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posted on
10/11/2003 10:55:10 AM PDT
by
bart99
To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
All of this talk about chronic pain makes me wonder if we haven't evolved into a society which cannot tolerate any pain. How did our ancestors tolerate pain? I'm very happy that you have never suffered chronic, debilitating, unescapable 24-hour per day pain. Neither had I until about 5 years ago, when I suffered a herniated disc: constant, strong muscle spasms; intense pain while sitting, standing, lying down; inability to sleep; inability to stand up straight while continuing to need to be able to teach for a living.
Re: ancestors in pain I imagine a fair number of them, in serious enough pain, ended their own pain via suicide.
Please accept that, although you haven't experienced it, incredible, unending pain does exist-- and people need help with it in order to continue a meaningful life.
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