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1 posted on 10/10/2003 7:28:06 PM PDT by Pokey78
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2 posted on 10/10/2003 7:48:18 PM PDT by BigBadBrian
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3 posted on 10/10/2003 7:49:38 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: TheStickman
ping for you, good info.
4 posted on 10/10/2003 7:54:09 PM PDT by visualops (If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. -Thomas Paine)
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To: Pokey78
Bump for a great article. Should be required reading
for every one in America.
5 posted on 10/10/2003 7:54:15 PM PDT by John from Manhattan
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To: Pokey78
bump
6 posted on 10/10/2003 7:55:18 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: arete
Paging Dennis Kucinich's bagman
7 posted on 10/10/2003 7:59:07 PM PDT by MJY1288 (This is your tagline "Bush/Cheney04", this is your tagline on drugs "AnyOtherChoice/04")
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To: Pokey78
The issue is not whether we have found WMD, but rather, whether the WMD Iraq admitted to after the Gulf War (1990) have been accounted for. We can not leave Iraq until we have done so, and resolved anything new that may have been discovered.

In the Gulf War, a good part of Saddam's Air Force was flown to Iran for sanctuary. I believe with all the delays in this last war, Iraq's WMD components may have been moved into Syria and Iran.

I also believe al Qaida, having been effectively thrown out of Afganastan, are making an all out effort in Iraq, to push us out and take control as they did with the Talliban. Iraq would be a perfect new home for them and would serve as a quary for WMD and conventional arms. Their success, of course, depends on the American Talliban (Democrats) doing another Vietnam on the American public.
11 posted on 10/10/2003 8:25:50 PM PDT by NJJ
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Ping for WMD
13 posted on 10/10/2003 8:41:39 PM PDT by StarCMC (God protect the 969th in Iraq and their Captain, my brother...God protect them all!)
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To: Pokey78
"The reason for war, in the first instance, was always the strategic threat posed by Saddam because of his proven record of aggression and barbarity, his admitted possession of weapons of mass destruction, and the certain knowledge of his programs to build more.."

Excellent, but it is an error in the War to Control the Language to talk about "the reason for war" in the singular. There were reasons that came together in what the President called "a convergence."

17 posted on 10/10/2003 9:07:47 PM PDT by cookcounty
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And then we bombed with the British for four days in 1998. We might have gotten it all; we might have gotten half of it; we might have gotten none of it. But we didn't know

Look, this says it ALL.

Bush said, in effect..."We will march to Baghdad and LOOK for the WMD we expect to find."

Clinton said, in effect..."We know enough about their EXACT LOCATIONS to program GPS targeting info into the Tomahawks and the 'Smart Bombs.'

Think about it...if Clinton didn't have the targeting info, then he spent MILLION$ shooting at the Desert.

I know how cynical and mendacious Bill Clinton is and was...yet I don't believe he lacked specific target info.

After all, he hit the Afgan al Qaeda training camps, and that Asprin factory in Khartom.

19 posted on 10/10/2003 9:32:52 PM PDT by Lael (Bush to Middle Class: Send your kids to DIE in Iraq while I send your LIVELIHOODS to INDIA!)
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To: Pokey78
Wow...Thanks for all that info!!!
34 posted on 10/11/2003 8:41:40 AM PDT by cyberjet31 (God Bless America)
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To: Cathryn Crawford; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
FYI
39 posted on 10/11/2003 10:16:15 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Japedo; IronJack; SC Swamp Fox; Hillarys Gate Cult; Bob J; Lazamataz; Eagle9; freedox
Excellent article.
49 posted on 10/11/2003 11:58:34 AM PDT by dixie sass (GOD bless America)
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To: Pokey78
But ...... But ........ Ted Kennedy, Hitlery and the rest of the Dims have heard none of this or so they say and the mainsteam media agrees with them. That is at least until after November of 2004.
71 posted on 10/11/2003 5:51:28 PM PDT by fella
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87 posted on 10/11/2003 10:42:49 PM PDT by GOPJ
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88 posted on 10/13/2003 6:12:17 PM PDT by sandlady
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UNMOVIC Comes Clean on Saddam's WMD and It's Worried
JINSA ^ | June 14, 2004
Posted on 06/14/2004 3:23:53 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1153467/posts


89 posted on 01/12/2005 7:24:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (the US population in the year 2100 will exceed a billion, perhaps even three billion.)
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If The Bush Administration Lied About WMD,
So Did These People

compiled by John Hawkins
"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

"Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, 2002

[many others]
Panel: Iraq Data Wasn't Hyped
by Ed Johnson, AP
9-11-03
[no link]
Prime Minister Tony Blair's government did not deliberately "sex up" a dossier on Iraqi weapons by including a disputed claim about chemical and biological weapons, Parliament's Intelligence and Security Committee ruled Thursday... A separate inquiry being led by Lord Hutton also is looking into the issue as it relates to the apparent suicide of arms expert David Kelly, who was named by officials as the possible source of a British Broadcasting Corp. report alleging the government exaggerated the threat from Iraq. The government denies the claims, which sparked a bitter feud between Blair's office and the British Broadcasting Corp. BBC reporter Andrew Gilligan subsequently said his source had blamed Blair's communications chief, Alastair Campbell, for insisting on including the claim. The Intelligence and Security Committee rejected those charges, and accepted the government's assertion that the Joint Intelligence Committee, which prepared the dossier, did not come under political pressure... The House of Commons Foreign Affairs Committee, in a report issued July 7, also absolved the government and Campbell.
from the June 7 2003 issue, this next one has a reverse spin goin'. The subtitle is "If there were no weapons, why didn't Saddam let his scientists talk?" But the editorial talks mostly about the partisan harping on the supposedly faked evidence. Of course the evidence for Iraqi WMD is real.
A Question of Proof
editorial
New Scientist
[no link]
In November 2002, the Security Council told Iraq to provide such verification of face the consequences. Even if Iraq really did give up its weapons, where was the proof? It could have supplied documents, dug up destroyed armaments, and allowed scientists to talk.
Nuke program parts unearthed in Baghdad back yard
Mike Boettcher,
David Ensor,
and producer Maria Fleet
Experts said the documents and pieces Obeidi gave the United States were the critical information and parts to restart a nuclear weapons program, and would have saved Saddam's regime several years and as much as hundreds of millions of dollars for research. David Albright, who was a U.N. nuclear weapons inspector in Iraq in the 1990s, said inspectors "understood that Iraq probably hid centrifuge documents, may have had components, and so it is very important that those items be found." ...Obeidi said he felt unsafe in Iraq after the U.S.-led invasion and that he was getting pressure from different corners of the country. He also said other Iraqi scientists were watching to see if he was safe after he cooperated with the U.S. government. Now that he and his family are safely out of Iraq, Obeidi said he believes other scientists would come forward with other components of Iraq's weapons program.
Saddam Had No WMD, But Was Importing Materials
Friday, September 17, 2004
According to people familiar with the 1,500-page report, the head of the Iraq Survey Group, Charles Duelfer, will find that Saddam was importing banned materials, working on unmanned aerial vehicles in violation of U.N. agreements and maintaining a dual-use industrial sector that could produce weapons. Duelfer also says Iraq only had small research and development programs for chemical and biological weapons. As Duelfer puts the finishing touches on his report, he concludes Saddam had intentions of restarting weapons programs at some point, after suspicion and inspections from the international community waned.
And, of course:
Saddams Bombmaker Saddam's Bombmaker
by Khidhir Hamza
with Jeff Stein

90 posted on 01/12/2005 7:25:43 PM PST by SunkenCiv (the US population in the year 2100 will exceed a billion, perhaps even three billion.)
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Ed Koch: Why Bush Must Be Re-elected
Bloomberg Radio (via Newsmax.com) ^ | July 22, 2004 | Ed Koch
Posted on 07/23/2004 1:42:28 PM PDT by Tern
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/1177308/posts


91 posted on 01/12/2005 7:26:17 PM PST by SunkenCiv (the US population in the year 2100 will exceed a billion, perhaps even three billion.)
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