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The coming currency devaluation
Gold-Eagle.com ^ | Oct 10, 2003 | Cliff Droke

Posted on 10/09/2003 10:49:33 PM PDT by Starwind

After repeated warnings from currency analysts and market advisors (including yours truly) that the U.S. currency system is on the verge of becoming a blocked, two-tier system we now have confirmation that the country is one step closer to realizing this. When fully implemented, the new U.S. dollar will mean a "banana republic" type currency and across-the-board devaluation.

According to a CNN/Money news wire report of Oct. 7, the new U.S. $20 bills will be released this week at banks across the country. Meanwhile, the Fed and its Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP) will hold a nationwide series of publicity events as part of a $33 million campaign to let the world know of the new bills and to acclimate the public to their strange new appearance.

The new $20s are peach-toned with the presence of blue ink, making it the first time in almost 100 years that a mass-circulation U.S. note has prominently contained a color besides green and black. They also contain an embedded vertical plastic strip and color-shifting ink, whose appearance changes from copper to green as the bill is tilted against the light. Below is what the front of the new $20 bill looks like (from the BEP website).

So what is the significance of this change of color in the U.S. $20 note? Well according to the Feds it is designed as a deterrent to stop counterfeiters. But accordingly to currency analyst Lawrence Patterson, who authored the 1994 monograph titled "Currency Recall", which accurately forecast the new multi-colored notes, the new colored money is part of a two-tiered currency system that will have drastic implications for investors and non-investors alike here in the U.S.

Patterson calls the new notes "crayola currency" and claims they will circulate domestically while the normal green currency that we've grown accustomed to will circulate offshore all over the globe. According to commentator Terry Savage, "Two-thirds of the U.S. paper currency is circulating in foreign countries." With the coming two-tiered currency system, foreigners will continue to be allowed to use the greenback while U.S. citizens will be stuck with the "crayola currency" which cannot be exchanged.

Patterson forecasts the coming use of foreign exchange controls for the U.S. dollar domestically, which would prohibit Americans from transferring capital to any other world currency. Again, this is discussed in Patterson's now-classic monograph "Currency Recall" (which I've read and highly recommend to students of currency policy and investors seeking to retain the value of their investments).

Patterson states, "I want every one...to think carefully about this...because we are coming very, very close to the end of the freely convertible domestic dollar. They cut in value could be as much as 50%...I believe those holding gold bullion bars offshore and bullion coins domestically will be very surprised to find that special regulations will prohibit them from profiting."

He further maintains that coin dealers are under a strict Treasury regulation and must report your sales of some coins but not others. The rule is as follows: Coins with a premium above 15% do not have to be reported. In addition to the 1099 report, filed by the coin dealer, you have to declare any capital gains as well."

He continues, "The existence of this rule, I believe, indicates an intent to outlaw the ownership of bullion coins altogether! However, the rule will not remain at 15% necessarily and could be changed to a higher percentage, which is unknown at this time. Obviously, you do not want to own any investment coins with a premium of 15% or less and better stay at the 25% or 30% level to be safe." Patterson points out that complications for the government would clearly arise should numismatic collectibles be forcibly confiscated since the bullion coins' value can be determined by the London gold fix, but not so for collectibles. "The price of the collectible coin may or may not be easily determined as numismatic valuables are routinely auctioned off at prices of not only tens of thousands of dollars, but hundreds of thousands of dollars per item," he observes. "It is difficult to imagine just how this would all be sorted out by the bureaucracy to come up with a calculation of compensation that would relate to the market value." He advises staying in the "safe zone" and exchanging bullion coins not needed for emergencies (such as food or gasoline shortages, et al) for numismatic coins with higher premiums.

Obviously, the introduction of the new peach-colored $20 bill is a test on the American public to see how they respond to the drastic new changes. The CNN/Money article states that the BEP has launched a multi-million dollar promotional campaign aimed at gaining public acceptance of the new currency. For example, the twenties are being featured on game shows, including "Wheel of Fortune" and "Jeopardy," sporting events, like ESPN's college football telecasts. The bills are also part of some consumer product tie-ins, according to CNN/Money, and pictures of the bills will be on the side of bags of Pepperidge Farm Goldfish. If the government succeeds in getting the American public to accept the bills, the other remaining denominations will obviously follow and plans will proceed for the blocked domestic dollar.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bullion; currecny; currency; gold; goldbuggery; mineshaft; pleasebuysomegold; silver; tinfoil; tinfoilhatalert; turass
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To: Alter Kaker
Are there two quarter systems?

Yep, 1964 and earlier coins ..... and the crap minted since.

21 posted on 10/09/2003 11:51:50 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Virtue untested is innocence)
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To: Starwind
But if a distinguishable new currency were introduced for domestic use only, and by law, not exchangable with the old-design currency circulating only outside the US, both could be "legal tender", just not exchangable without explaining where one got the currency they had.

Such a plan does not exist, the article writer is hawking gold. The 'author' he's quoting was the editor of 'Crime News' in a 2001 story. This is just the typical scare tactics that gold marketers use to bump the price of gold so that the traders can get out of the market just before one of the major sales by countries divesting themselves from large hoards of gold. The next major sale is in December, which means these traders have to bump the market so they can have some form of profit before the bottom falls out again.
22 posted on 10/09/2003 11:52:00 PM PDT by kingu (Just helping...)
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To: Starwind
I doubt that agitator has ever worked in a bank or knew anyone who worked in currency. I, OTOH, know both.

What those here, who revel in being frightened to death by imagined shadows, don't know, fills volumes and WHY anyone ever believes them, is beyond me.

The new paper money is being made to foil fraud and counterfitting, which has once again become a HUGE problem. It has NOTHING at all, to do with a two tiered money system.

23 posted on 10/09/2003 11:53:21 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Starwind
Thank you. But somehow, there is still something wrong. Unfortunately, my brother the banker just left on a two-week vacation and I won't be able to speak with him until he returns so I can share his comments with all of us. The acid test during his absence will be if we start to get multicolored bills here in Panama. I'm not saying you're wrong. I am saying that I'm not satisfied with our comments yet.
24 posted on 10/09/2003 11:58:01 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: nopardons
Ref post #23. I agree with you.
25 posted on 10/10/2003 12:02:16 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: kingu
the article writer is hawking gold.

Well he's doing a terrible job of it.

From the article: I believe those holding gold bullion bars offshore and bullion coins domestically will be very surprised to find that special regulations will prohibit them from profiting.

Seriously, do you think he's encouraging people to go out and buy gold because they'll profit from it?

The author may be a crackpot about a dual currency, but then you can't argue he's shrewdly selling gold either.

26 posted on 10/10/2003 12:03:52 AM PDT by Starwind (The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Thanks. I don't talk about things I don't know much about/nothing at all about, unlike so many here. I've stated facts . Your brother the banker WILL concur with what I have posted. :-)
27 posted on 10/10/2003 12:05:48 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Most of the "money" in the world is in electrons not cash.
How much "money" are you worth??
How much "cash" do you have??
Most of the money in the world exists only in ledger entries
in bank accounts anyway.
28 posted on 10/10/2003 12:08:50 AM PDT by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: nopardons
Bump.

I am a bit concerned about rising mortgage rates. I've gotten lazy and spoiled. I have a bank board review on 11-9 for a big (for me) package and I fear they will raise the ceiling on my balloon with equities obviously rebounding.

Can't have it all can we?
29 posted on 10/10/2003 12:08:56 AM PDT by wardaddy (The Lizard King it was.....)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
The acid test during his absence will be if we start to get multicolored bills here in Panama.

If the author is correct, you won't ever see multicolored US currency in Panama - only in the US (I presume you're not referring to the canal zone?); Panama would continue to see the existing 'greenbacks', and said greenabcks woul dbe minted anew to replace worn out bills; Panama would not receive the muitcolored currency to replace worn out bills.

I am saying that I'm not satisfied with our comments yet.

Me neither.

Perhaps you can persuade him to post (or let you post) his comments upon his return?

30 posted on 10/10/2003 12:09:39 AM PDT by Starwind (The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
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To: nopardons
On a lighter note, and I'm serious, the Panamanian public has not been educated on the new change. I can see the population refusing to accept these new bills thinking they are phony. I dread walking into a supermarket and trying to pass a new twenty off. But then I again, note to self, don't worry..use credit card. Don’t leave home without it.
31 posted on 10/10/2003 12:12:58 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Starwind
Read my post again. If you were to exchange existing dollars for the new "internal dollars," that exchange would be one for one; $1 old for $1 new "internal" money.

When you went to exchange old or new "internal" dollars for the new "external" dollar, that was to be done by value, i.e., implying that there could be different values (purchasing power) for the "internal" dollar vs. the "external" dollar.

In otherwords, you're going on vacation to Ecuador (which uses dollars as currency) and it might take $50 US "internal" dollars to buy $35 US "external" dollars to take with you.

Considering how politicians enjoy theft by the defacto devaluation of our currency by printing too much of it (where they get to spend the new money before you get it), and considering how certain elements of govt think it's the duty of American citizens to transfer the product of their work to every third world ____hole for no good reason, with a dual currency with a floating exchange rate between them they would be free to inflate our new "rubles" without affecting the value of the external dollars.

That would mean they could steal the value of our "rubles" without interfering with international settlements based on the dollar, or mucking around with the long term planning of multinationals using the external dollar.

32 posted on 10/10/2003 12:16:42 AM PDT by agitator (Ok, mic check...line one...)
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To: calljack
Not " most " money is in " electrons "; that's how it is transferred though.

My personal wealth and where it resides, is none of your business.

33 posted on 10/10/2003 12:19:54 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Starwind
P.S. Mind you, I'm talking about bills that are now 5-7 years old and I know of no such bills currently introduced. I'm only referring to what I read at the time and suggesting the potential danger *if* a dual currency system were to be introduced.
34 posted on 10/10/2003 12:20:25 AM PDT by agitator (Ok, mic check...line one...)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Use your credit card, if you are worried. Eventually, everyone, everywhere will get the hang of it all. LOL
35 posted on 10/10/2003 12:21:20 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
No need to ask my brother now because your statement was correct.
36 posted on 10/10/2003 12:22:06 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: wardaddy
You knew that was coming and NO, we can't ever have it all.
37 posted on 10/10/2003 12:22:35 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
I can see the population refusing to accept these new bills thinking they are phony.

Actually that would be the same concern of the US Treasury. The US population can accept a new bill. But there are many countries (Oil producing countries) on whose acceptance of the dollar and US currency we don't want to jeopardize.

Hence why the old currency would continue to circulate internationally.

If not being able to exchange that old currency with the new US domestic currency (except at borders and banks) and that helps track drug profiteers, so be it. But if the exchange rate is not one to one, how does it get set and that would seem to lead to problems.

But US bills in commerce internationally, isolated from US commerce domestically except by customs exchange (ostensibly) will lead to each currency having a different value because they no longer flow freely among those two different markets.

38 posted on 10/10/2003 12:23:18 AM PDT by Starwind (The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Thanks and yes, it was. :-)
39 posted on 10/10/2003 12:23:33 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Starwind

Buy silver.
Buy gold (silver is a MUCH better value in my opinion.)
Put it in a safe place and forget about it.

Then rest easy at night.



40 posted on 10/10/2003 12:25:22 AM PDT by Capitalism2003
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