Investigator Testifies at Bryant Hearing

Chippawa Valley ^

[Peach]

The woman actually said she agreed to kiss him, standing up. Period.

It took an ugly turn from there. Bruising on the face and neck doesn't happen during consensual sex.

[Recourse]

When Arnold ALLEGEDLY gropes someone, Maxine Waters/Gloria Allred & Co. go nuts. But when Kobe is actually charged with a crime, well, that's just because Eagle County is racist.

[mewzilla]

Which is probably why the defense wants the info out now. So the jury pool will have some time to get inured to it.

[Shermy]

I really have to wonder what she thought was going to happen when she went into that hotel room.

Just going into a hotel room is not "consent".

And with this one, she's an employee of the hotel, it would be natural for her to go into the room for a variety of reasons.

[Peach]

Exactly (again). I see you are savy to the ways of defense attorneys.

Since they have pictures of her face and neck and the bruises, they need to get the story out there now and people will get used to the bad news and find other ways to excuse it.

Just like Clinton. Originally we were told IF it was true he'd had sex with an intern then he'd have to resign. The rest is history.

[PRND21]

consensual sexual encounter

[najida]

The older I get, the more stories I hear from other women very similar to this...

They know they did something really stupid (get in a car, open a door, accept an invitation inside). But they were raped. Sad thing, they were too embarrassed by their own actions to press charges against the guy for his actions.

[Shermy]

"jury pool"

Did you hear her so-called "friends" right after this broke news?

I think she herself can't get a fair trial in that town...

[per loin]

This was quite a bit more savage than we'd been led to believe.

Yes. If the true story is at all like told today, Kobe will be wearing a less stylish uniform for a good many years.

[Peach]

Why do you keep repeating consensual sexual encounter? You are so obviously uninformed.

[jimbo123]

The Kobots think its okay for him to choke her and rape her from behind because he went up to his room. The Kobots believe she deserved the anal and vaginal tears Kobe gave her during the rape.

[A CA Guy]

We'll never know, yet they blocked Kobe from bringing up all her mental problems, so if convicted, look for the town to have many visiting rioters who will set the town on fire IMO!

Could happen when areas of defense are prohibited and a felony jail term is on the line.

[mountaineer]

No, I don't have a daughter. I am female, however, and I agree with you that young women frequently exhibit poor judgment, e.g., putting themselves in situations where there's a strong likelihood something like this is going to happen. I've read a lot of court files of rape cases where the girl accepted a ride from a stranger, for example, and ended up sexually assaulted.

It's just common sense, though (perhaps something this girl was lacking), that you shouldn't be surprised when you flirt with a married pro athlete and then go to his hotel room for some "consensual" sexual activity (short of intercourse, presumably) and things get out of hand. If Kobe forced her to do anything she didn't want to do, I'm certainly not saying her lack of judgment excuses him.

[STFrancis]

was that in the hearing today about anal and vaginal tears..???

[Peach]

Women always feel it was their fault. And it sounds like we have a few on this thread who feel that just by going into that hotel room, she deserves what she got.

It's a shame and I hope those people don't have young daughters because when we were young, we all used poor judgment at times.

[Peach]

I'd originally felt this was probably not rape, but after hearing about the bruises today and the other facts that are too difficult to write about in this forum, I think it was rape and you're right - he'll be wearing a different uniform.

[jimbo123]

He rented a porno pay per view movie afterwards, too. It's amazing how the Kobots worship this monster.

[mewzilla]

If that's the case, she won't get one anywhere.

[Shermy]

"consensual sexual encounter"

How far was the consent?

He might "walk," it's true. People on a jury could shrug their shoulders about jailtime, throw it to the civil court.