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For GOP,glow of victory may hide rifts only briefly; Conservatives seek reward
BAYAREA ^
| 10/09/03
| Jim Puzzanghera and Dawn C. Chmielewski
Posted on 10/09/2003 12:31:14 PM PDT by Pikamax
For GOP, glow of victory may hide rifts only briefly RIVAL WINGS: AFTER BACKING MODERATE, CONSERVATIVES SEEK REWARD: By Jim Puzzanghera and Dawn C. Chmielewski Mercury News
LOS ANGELES - In the wake of Arnold Schwarzenegger's victory, some Republican leaders say the state party's feuding moderate and conservative wings have learned to put aside their differences. But with the governor-elect already under pressure from conservatives who want to be rewarded for their support, it's not clear how long the GOP honeymoon will last.
After a string of recent electoral setbacks that left California's GOP in a shambles, Republican leaders and many conservative rank-and-file members put ideology aside and backed the socially moderate Schwarzenegger. They embraced the popular action star, a supporter of abortion rights and gay rights, declaring his fiscal conservatism good enough for them -- at least for now.
Moderates see Schwarzenegger pulling a fragmented party together, where it finally found victory again with the recall of Democratic Gov. Gray Davis on Tuesday.
``You have a party that understands that ideals are the bedrock of any party, but there are other considerations,'' said state Republican chair George ``Duf'' Sundheim. ``What we've shown by this election is somebody who doesn't measure up 100 percent on the litmus test not only can win an election but can be accepted by the party.''
An ongoing struggle
Brooks Firestone, a leading moderate and former assemblyman, had another interpretation. ``I think the people of California got ahead of the Republican Party as Republicans,'' he said. ``The people of California showed the Republican Party how to be Republicans. It's about governance. It's not about sermons.''
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posted on
10/09/2003 12:31:15 PM PDT
by
Pikamax
To: Poohbah; strela; Hillary's Lovely Legs; habs4ever; redlipstick; onyx; PhiKapMom; Howlin; ...
Brooks Firestone, a leading moderate and former assemblyman, had another interpretation. ``I think the people of California got ahead of the Republican Party as Republicans,'' he said. ``The people of California showed the Republican Party how to be Republicans. It's about governance. It's not about sermons.''
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posted on
10/09/2003 12:36:31 PM PDT
by
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
"The people of California showed the Republican Party how to be Republicans. It's about governance. It's not about sermons." Wow, there's my new tagline (if it'll fit). Thank you.
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posted on
10/09/2003 12:39:17 PM PDT
by
strela
("It's about governance. It's not about sermons." Brooks Firestone)
To: Chancellor Palpatine
``The people of California showed the Republican Party how to be Republicans. It's about governance. It's not about sermons.'' Flag on the play, ten yard penalty for premature celebration.
Firestone is a little early, they haven't governed anything yet.
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posted on
10/09/2003 12:41:56 PM PDT
by
NeoCaveman
(Dem's keep losing and losing and losing)
To: Pikamax
``He's got to hold the conservative wing of the party. He wouldn't have won without them. He cannot stray too far and he knows that,''
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posted on
10/09/2003 12:44:35 PM PDT
by
skeeter
(Fac ut vivas)
To: dubyaismypresident
Nah - I understand him, and it needed saying. It was one of those pointed comments directed at a few people who needed reminding of what they've wrought over the past 10 years.
To: dubyaismypresident
Sundheim got it right.
``You have a party that understands that ideals are the bedrock of any party, but there are other considerations,'' said state Republican chair George ``Duf'' Sundheim.
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posted on
10/09/2003 12:46:46 PM PDT
by
hobbes1
( Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
To: Chancellor Palpatine; dubyaismypresident; Hildy
YEs, we now have a term for them.
(SUCKERS: Short-sighted Uncompromising Conservative Kool-Aid-drinking Elitist Republicans)
I got from Hildy, who got it from someone she cannot recall.
Exceptionally accurate.
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posted on
10/09/2003 12:48:35 PM PDT
by
hobbes1
( Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
To: hobbes1
That is true. Callyfoinia will need to be weaned off socialism.
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posted on
10/09/2003 12:48:40 PM PDT
by
NeoCaveman
(Dem's keep losing and losing and losing)
To: Chancellor Palpatine
Brooks Firestone seems to give an awful lot of sermons for someone who claims to be against sermonizing.
Some great early signs have come out of this victory - and one of them appears to be that the Wilson camp won't be controlling the strings. Sorry, Charlie. Arnold is more interested in governing than carrying the water for your anti-conservative Jihad.
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posted on
10/09/2003 12:54:16 PM PDT
by
ambrose
To: Chancellor Palpatine; strela
Excellent. strela made it fit.
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posted on
10/09/2003 12:54:55 PM PDT
by
onyx
To: dubyaismypresident
It's "Kollyvornia."
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posted on
10/09/2003 12:56:58 PM PDT
by
Poohbah
("[Expletive deleted] 'em if they can't take a joke!" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
To: Poohbah
Thanks
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posted on
10/09/2003 12:57:59 PM PDT
by
NeoCaveman
(Dem's keep losing and losing and losing)
To: ambrose
It's in Arnold's interest to keep social conservatives happy and onboard. There have been "moderate" Republicans, Riordan and Wilson come to mind, who have been hostile to the social conservatives in the past. But the vibe I'm getting is that Arnold wants to keep the party together and won't play into this intra-party warfare madness. That would be a very good thing.
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posted on
10/09/2003 1:05:29 PM PDT
by
BearArms
To: BearArms; Chancellor Palpatine
But the vibe I'm getting is that Arnold wants to keep the party together and won't play into this intra-party warfare madness.Poor Palpatine will be "deeply saddened" if that were to be the case. He wants to see Stalinistic purges of the party, not a big tent.
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posted on
10/09/2003 1:15:51 PM PDT
by
ambrose
To: hobbes1
We Social Conservatives wish that you centrists would be more civil. I guess that's too much to ask.
Anyways, being a bit of a nymrod (see definition below), I came up with my own wry self-descriptive recursive acronym:
IDEALIST
Integrity Driven Egalitarian Activist Longtermview Idealogical Sincere Truists
nymrod
noun. A person who insists on turning every multi-word term into an acronym.
recursive acronym
noun. An acronym that refers to itself, usually by incorporating the acronym as the first word in the expanded phrase.
To: ambrose
I think you first coined CA's GOP, Arnold's party. It is and it's a big tent.
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posted on
10/09/2003 1:55:14 PM PDT
by
onyx
To: Chancellor Palpatine
Bump
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posted on
10/09/2003 2:34:14 PM PDT
by
LPM1888
(Freedom begins when you tell Mrs Grundy to go fly a kite)
To: strela
"The people of California showed the Republican Party how to be Republicans. It's about governance. It's not about sermons." Wow, there's my new tagline (if it'll fit). Thank you.
Great idea, but it won't. ( I tried)
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posted on
10/09/2003 2:40:35 PM PDT
by
LPM1888
(Freedom begins when you tell Mrs Grundy to go fly a kite)
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