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The simple fact of the matter is that there is no way that McClintock didn't know what Ahmanson was about

I completely understand that you believe this to the bottom of your soul.

I, on the other hand, have seen nothing to indicate to me that he would have ever even heard of the guy.

You provided two pieces of evidence.

One: McClintock worked for Claremont, which Ahmanson donated to. To me, this shows nothing. Obviously, to you it does because you included it. I am trying to get at what you think it shows, and in doing I want to see what other implications it would hold.

Two: McClintock has an aide who knows very well who Ahmanson is and what he's about. It has been proven to me that he has such an aide who does know this. But how this means McClintock had to know who Ahmanson is, I do not see. I do not assume that because two people know each other and work with (or for) each other, that they share all experiences and knowledge.

From newsmax: The Times reported that enthusiastic supporters of McClintock included California businessman Howard Ahmanson Jr.; Gary Bauer, a political leader among religious conservatives; Lewis K. Uhler, president of the National Tax Limitation Committee; and Reed Larson, president of the National Right to Work Committee.

KTLA:

Among members of the Council for National Policy who were hosts at Friday's fund-raiser, a posh reception at the Broadmoor Hotel in Colorado Springs, were Irvine businessman Howard Ahmanson Jr.; Gary Bauer of the Washington think tank American Values, a political leader among religious conservatives; Lewis K. Uhler, president of the National Tax Limitation Committee; and Reed Larson, president of the National Right to Work Committee.

Newsday:

McClintock is the beneficiary of at least four independent efforts in the recall campaign. Conservative Christian Howard Ahmanson, an heir to a savings and loan fortune, is spending $75,000 on an independent campaign for McClintock.

A separate committee, the California Republican Assembly, earmarked an additional $57,000 to help elect McClintock, a Thursday filing with the secretary of state shows.

And I didn't work real hard to find those. Considering that wife Roberta was making donations, too, it appears that they were coming up with significant $$$.

I will even accept that McClintock didn't know exactly what Stoos believed, but a large donor is another story.

And, this Soos person could be actively advising McClintock into actions that are detrimental to him and to the Republicans...like calling those who didn't support him "country club" types.

The ways of the Old Testament were done away when Christ was born and made his earthly sojourn and subsequently was crucified, died and then resurrected.

To Christians worldwide, the New Testament is the basis for a code of life that replaced the OT and does not condone stoning or death for unbelievers, as I recall.

Yet, there are those here today that argue there are forces working towards that end and implementing the OT ways again.

It seems that those same forces would be willing to suffer eternal damnation in doing so as they are in direct opposition to God's plan as revealed in the Gospel.

Now here is a thread that claims the "Chalcedonians" seek to rule absolutely as the Clintons and their ilk would desire as well.

There are some here with their own agendas and desires to change FR and subject it and its mission to being a muted one at best, using any scurrilous inference that it can, without regard for their own eternal souls or for others they may mislead as they layout their information and try to persuade others of its validity on today's political stage.

If you want to go biblical, get it right. This is why Jesus said he would spit out the lukewarms. They are worse than the openly evil for they would try and pass themselves off as one of the same community they seek to attack and conquer and vanquish for their own ends.

Just my thoughts.