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Gray Davis' Cop-Killing Gun Law
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| October 8, 2003
| Richard Poe
Posted on 10/08/2003 4:03:52 PM PDT by Richard Poe
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To: Richard Poe
More damn idiocy from the California Left. Until just now, I was missing the place.
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posted on
10/08/2003 4:09:27 PM PDT
by
Riley
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posted on
10/08/2003 4:11:05 PM PDT
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To: Richard Poe
This is just nuts, especially the loaded chamber indicator. If someone doesn't know enough not to point a firearm at someone (whether or not it's loaded), will they know enough to look at the indicator to see if there's a round in the chamber? Uh, no, they won't. And would you trust that indicator? Would you be foolish enough to point a firearm at somebody, just for "fun", and trust that indicator? Ooops, I thought it wasn't loaded.
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posted on
10/08/2003 4:13:13 PM PDT
by
.38sw
To: Richard Poe
Does anyone know of any handgun that fits the criteria of the law? Anyone?
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posted on
10/08/2003 4:30:26 PM PDT
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Sindarian
(Love is the Law, Love under Will.)
To: Richard Poe
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posted on
10/08/2003 4:33:29 PM PDT
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DoctorZIn
To: .38sw
Sue the gun control crowd for every person hurt who could not defend themselves because they took away their constitutional right to bear arms. Bankrupt these organizations whether they are private or public entities. If they win, America goes to the first despot to gain control of the police and army. Then they will follow the bloody path of historys infamous tyrants. Before we go that rout we need to build and refine a litigation machine to eat those
B@st@rds up in court.
To: Sindarian
Does anyone know of any handgun that fits the criteria of the law? Anyone? Seems I had a Llama .380 semiauto that had a loaded chamber indicator. Seems my Browning Hi Power wouldn't fire unless the clip was inserted. But I don't think I've ever owned a handgun that had both.
To: Richard Poe
In other words, he wants to take away the double standard cops currently enjoy. Maybe when their CCW rights are stripped away they will look more favorably on ALL of us being allowed to carry. Police officers should not get special rights.
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posted on
10/08/2003 4:39:42 PM PDT
by
xm177e2
(Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
To: .38sw
..and trust that indicator? Ooops, I thought it wasn't loaded.That's the point of the law. If a weapon fires with a round in the chamber that is not "indicated", the firearm will be "defective". SB 489 is not about making firearms " safer", it is about keeping manufacturers from selling in California due to increased liability.
At the same time, well made "pre SB 489" firearms will be kept off or slowly removed from the CA-DOJ, "Safe Gun List", thus completing the de facto disarming of Californians.
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posted on
10/08/2003 4:45:44 PM PDT
by
elbucko
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To: Richard Poe
My Springfield 1911 has a loaded chamber indicator, which I would NEVER rely on for determining if the gun has a round in the chamber. Of more concern is the idea of the gun being disabled if the magazine is removed. I was trained not to fire until slide lock; rather, fire all but one round and then change magazines. That way, there's a round "ready" and I can fire with the magazine removed should an opportunity/need present itself. This new law will indeed be a cop killer (and a killer of civilians defending themselves).
To: elbucko
Those privately owned pre-SB489 firearms will become quite valuable, won't they? Yes, the defacto disarming of Californians is continuing.
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posted on
10/08/2003 5:03:46 PM PDT
by
.38sw
To: *bang_list
Bang
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posted on
10/08/2003 5:04:47 PM PDT
by
Yo-Yo
To: Sindarian
The model M2 Mauser has both features.
Mauser, the oldest name in semi-automatic pistols, is proud to introduce a pistol designed for personal protection for home defense or as a concealed carry for the private citizen at an affordable price.
The M2 by Mauser could arguably be called "the safest handgun on the market today". Several safety features are integrated into the M2's design. The pistol features a loaded chamber indicator on top of the slide, which provides a visual indication that a round is present in the firing chamber.
The pistol's magazine disconnect is designed to prevent the pistol from being fired with the magazine removed from the pistol, even if a live round remains in the chamber. The pistol is equipped with an automatic firing pin safety that will not release the firing pin unless the trigger has been pulled.
A disconnector prevents out of battery firing. The double-action only fire control system (in conjunction with the striker firing system) holds the striker at half cock which will not fire the cartridge should it be accidentally released. The manual external safety, located on the back of the slide, allows the owner to quickly observe if the handgun in is the safe mode while in the holster and can be quickly operated with the shooting hand.
Mauser M2 pistols are modern semi-automatic handguns complying with the latest technical advances in firearms design. They operate on the principle of mechanically half-cocked recoil loading with semiautomatic reloading. The manual safety catch, magazine catch and automatic firing pin ensure safe carrying of the pistol. After every shot the firing pin is automatically half-cocked and completely safe. The distinctive contrast sights in conjunction with the ergonomically favorable grip design permits rapid, precision target acquisition and firing.
Mauser M2 Technical Specifications:
Mechanical rotary-action bolt; Striker-fired (no hammer); Double-action only semiautomatic pistol; loaded chamber indicator, magazine safety disconnect, manual safety, available in .45 ACP, & .40 S&W calibers.
Each Mauser M2 pistol comes complete with green plastic hard carry case, trigger lock & 2 magazines.
The Mauser M2 is imported and distributed in North America exclusively by SIGARM
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posted on
10/08/2003 5:14:57 PM PDT
by
45Auto
(Big holes are (almost) always better.)
To: Sindarian
M2 Mauser
In .45 ACP and .40 S and W
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posted on
10/08/2003 5:17:07 PM PDT
by
45Auto
(Big holes are (almost) always better.)
To: Sindarian
Also chambered in .357 Sig
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posted on
10/08/2003 5:19:40 PM PDT
by
45Auto
(Big holes are (almost) always better.)
To: Sindarian
The Luger had a 'loaded' indicator a hundred years ago; I don't know if it had a magazine disconnector but it was a pretty common design feature on pistols meant for cavalry use. As I recall, the thinking was that it made it harder to accidentally shoot your horse while changing magazines at the gallop.
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posted on
10/08/2003 5:25:12 PM PDT
by
Grut
To: Sindarian
Bersa .380 also has both mag disconnect and loaded chamber indicator
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posted on
10/08/2003 5:26:46 PM PDT
by
45Auto
(Big holes are (almost) always better.)
To: Pavlovs Dog
"Hear Hear! screw the cops, they aint nothing but people who chose a different career path, let them see how it feels!" Crudley stated, but correct.
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posted on
10/08/2003 5:26:48 PM PDT
by
tahiti
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