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Turkey Is Joining Up
New York Times ^ | 10/8/2003 | WILLIAM SAFIRE

Posted on 10/08/2003 4:28:59 AM PDT by a_Turk

Better late than never.

As the foreign minister Abdullah Gul revealed in this space last week, postwar public opinion has changed in Turkey. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan wants to reassert that secular Muslim nation's historic position as America's stalwart strategic ally. At the moment the coalition most needs a boost, leaders of the powerful Turkish Army are now ready to provide a division of peacekeeping troops.

Yesterday, the Turkish Parliament approved — by a whopping 2-to-1 majority — the government's proposal to take an active part in stabilizing Iraq. Unlike Russia and Pakistan (our allies in name only), and unlike France and Germany (our outright diplomatic adversaries), Turkey's government does not insist on a new U.N. resolution stripping control from the U.S. and Britain before lending a hand. That will affect other countries now hanging back, as well as the U.N. resolution itself.

Credit our State Department's counterterrorism chief, Cofer Black, with some deft diplomacy in Ankara. The big obstacle, from the Turks' point of view, was the P.K.K., a renegade Kurdish force that for decades has been trying to bite off a piece of Turkey in a separatist guerrilla war that cost 35,000 lives. (Even today, some of these terrorist Kurds make up much of Ansar al-Islam, the Al Qaeda affiliate fighting us in Iraq.)

From the point of view of the peaceful Kurds — who, protected from Saddam by allied air forces based in Turkey, built a democracy in the past decade — the big obstacle was not just the longtime Turkish oppression of its Kurdish minority, but the habit of Turkish troops of staying in parts of Iraqi Kurdistan just in case the P.K.K. terrorists should regroup.

To allay Turkish concerns about terrorist bases near its border with northern Iraq, the U.S. promised to help suppress the P.K.K. To reassure the democratic Kurds who fought Saddam, we are setting up ways to transport and supply Turkish troops without establishing that army's presence in cities like Mosul and Kirkuk. A sea route may be the solution.

But every solution begets a new problem. The Iraqi Governing Council that we appointed now brings to mind the old television commercial in which a testy bride insists, "Mother — I can do it myself!" Many of its appointees are reluctant to welcome any more peacekeeping troops from any foreign country. Months away from a trained police force of their own, these Iraqi politicians know that the way to local voter appeal is to assert independence loudly from the occupiers who brought them freedom and are currently taking casualties to restore order.

Now is the moment for Iraq's Kurdish leaders, their anti-Saddam credentials unassailable and their gratitude for the coalition's intervention sincere, to take the long view. Neither Massoud Barzani nor Jalal Talabani is running for the top job in the new Iraq; the interests of Kurds are now best served by their support of secular Shiite or even Sunni leaders who will respect Kurdish autonomy within a federal Iraq.

The three dominant voices in the council are Ahmad Chalabi (secular Shiite, once the Pentagon's choice), Iyad Alawi (secular Shiite with some Baathist background, formerly the C.I.A.'s choice, this month in the rotating chairmanship) and Adnan Pachachi (Sunni, former foreign minister, supported by the Egyptians, Saudis and Jacques Chirac). Alawi is gaining political strength. All three know the council is far from ready to hold elections, much less able to hold down the Baathist remnants and Afghan Arabs seeking to sabotage the nascent government.

Because the Kurdish leaders need not pander to potential Iraqi voters by outwardly resisting the help sought by the coalition of fresh foreign troops, they have become the crucial element in ensuring free Iraq's future. They should be aware of two dangers: (1) rushing the end of occupation before the rule of constitutional law is established, and (2) encouraging neo-isolationism in America and the cutoff of foreign aid by biting the hand that freed them.

Message to Massoud, Jalal, Barham and Hoshyar: cooperate with the coalition and work out Iraq's deal with the Turks to stay only one year. That's what the Turks want, too, as well as your American friends. This is a big moment. Don't miss the historic opportunity for your people.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: iraq; kdp; pkk; puk; turkey; usa

1 posted on 10/08/2003 4:28:59 AM PDT by a_Turk
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2 posted on 10/08/2003 4:31:03 AM PDT by a_Turk (But the game never ends when your whole world depends on the turn of a friendly card..)
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3 posted on 10/08/2003 4:32:42 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: a_Turk
Link to last week's article he references in his 1st paragraph.
4 posted on 10/08/2003 4:37:02 AM PDT by a_Turk (But the game never ends when your whole world depends on the turn of a friendly card..)
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To: a_Turk
Well, Turkey is a little late, but welcome to the party.
5 posted on 10/08/2003 4:42:43 AM PDT by carton253 (All I need to know about Islam I learned on 9/11/2001)
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To: All
From the point of view of the peaceful Kurds -- who, protected from Saddam by allied air forces based in Turkey, built a democracy in the past decade -- the big obstacle was not just the longtime Turkish oppression of its Kurdish minority, but the habit of Turkish troops of staying in parts of Iraqi Kurdistan just in case the P.K.K. terrorists should regroup.

If we're going to talk about the "longtime Turkish oppression of its Kurdish minority" let's not swoon too much over the "peaceful Kurds." Missing from Mr. Safire's words is mention of the war fought between the Kurdish PDK and PUK in the late 1990s.

Missing also is just how things may have been different prior to the war if U.S. civilians had been willing to address Turkey's concerns over the Marxist terrorist PKK. Better late than never.

6 posted on 10/08/2003 4:58:36 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: a_Turk
Good Post Turk!

But what's this?encouraging neo-isolationism in America and the cutoff of foreign aid by biting the hand that freed them.

Our new Kurdish pals are sitting on the worlds 6th largest oil field. After they get themselves organized a bit, they should start paying us! Any biting going on here, it's American taxpayers and gasoline buyers should be doing it!
One other teensie thing: the Kurds ain't exactly "Nature's Noblemen." They are ferocious mountain tribesmen. Just because several factions (out of about 10) are united and armed at the moment, it won't take long for them to start shooting each other, if wiser heads (ours) don't prevail.

Giving these Kurd wild boys oil $billions to play with is like giving a baby a locked and loaded UZI. Let's keep an eye on these troublesome, colorful and quaint folks and their oil.

7 posted on 10/08/2003 5:18:17 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Sure, we should welcome the Turkish troops - but deploy them throughout the SOUTH of Iraq. The Shi'ites have to understand that the presence of foreign troops patrolling their streets has nothing to do with suppressing the free exercise of the Muslim religion. By now, the Shi'ites are well aware of the way that Turks treat other Muslims, and there is no particular favoritism as to whether one sect or another is subject to either harsher or more gentle treatment. Turks are swift and quite even-handed in the brutality with which they put down insurrections.

It would also do well to have some of these fine fierce Turks sitting on the western border of the non-Kurdish portion of Iran.
8 posted on 10/08/2003 5:23:30 AM PDT by alloysteel
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To: a_Turk
Well, why not? when the middle east power bases are falling ( Saudis covering their butts against the religoius extremists,Iraq squashed like a bug,Iran running scared and in the market for a nuke to bluff the US).If the "turks" play it right , they can 1) stop illegal Iraqi refugees/immigration that is bound to hit their nation, 2) prop themselves up as the alternative in the Muslim world to turn to instead of the "Hated" Christian,Isreal lovin' U.S. 3) get a shot at those Darn "Kurds".I think the 3rd option is appealing to Turkey as the PKK and its off shoots commit "pesky" little acts of violent terrorism/ crime in " turk ville"- and a NATO sponsored -Turkish bullet in the right "skull" would clean up the Kurdish Headache (they've done it before in Armenia ,so what would stop them now?).If given a choice between the French,Russians and Turks as allies, I'd go with the Turks-Takes alwhile and a lot of complainin' to get 'em going but they can fight almost as Good as the Pakistanis,show discipline like the British (when led right),will stay SOBER and are less likely to rape the locals (SO Much for da' Russians) and won't PUNK OUT AND SURRENDER( unless the food and bullets run out, mainly the bullets) like the FRENCH (ever notice that alot of weapons systems used by nations hostile to the U.S. come from France and Russis?).Last bonus- Unlike US kind hearted American"liberators" the Turks won't stand for that killing the "peace keeper" B.S. ,i.e. (1)dead Turk soldier = (20) Dead Iraqis......
9 posted on 10/08/2003 5:29:51 AM PDT by jake hoyt ("I have never seen a wild thing feel sorry for itself........)
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To: a_Turk
Message to Massoud, Jalal, Barham and Hoshyar: cooperate with the coalition and work out Iraq's deal with the Turks to stay only one year. That's what the Turks want, too, as well as your American friends. This is a big moment. Don't miss the historic opportunity for your people.

Excellent advice.

10 posted on 10/08/2003 5:39:05 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: a_Turk
From Stratfor.com...........

Geopolitical Diary, Wednesday, Oct. 8, 2003

The Turkish Parliament has voted to send troops to Iraq to support the U.S. occupation. Many of the details are blurry, particularly the timing of the insertion of troops. However, it appears that the Turks have agreed to send about 10,000 troops, nearly a division, that will deploy in the Sunni triangle -- the heart of the guerrilla war in Iraq.

Turkey's reversal of its noninvolvement policy is a major achievement for the United States. In fact, it is the first major shift in the United States' favor in a long while. The United States needs a cohesive force to engage in operations in the Sunni region. That is to say, it does not really need more international divisions whose various elements can't speak to each other. Moreover, the United States needs the active support of Islamic countries. The Turkish government is moderately Islamic, even if the regime is institutionally secular.

The Turks lend political cover to the United States -- globally and in the Islamic world. The cover is hardly comprehensive, but it's more than the United States had yesterday. The United States also needs troops to share the burden. Obviously, a price will have to be paid. Some of the cost is already visible, and some is not.

The visible cost is with the Kurds. Turkey vehemently opposes the creation of an independent Kurdish state, and doesn't particularly want to see Kurdish autonomy even in Iraq. The Kurds are one of the United States' firmest assets in Iraq. Kurdish forces are patrolling the Iraq-Iran frontier, as well as conducting other operations in the northeast. Unless the Kurds and Turks have accepted some sort of prior understanding, the United States and the Kurds will have some real issues.

This also raises a question that we have been discussing for quite a while -- the affect on the evolution of U.S. relations with the Shiites and Iran. Clearly, the decision to keep the Turks in Sunni areas is conditioned by military reality. It is also affected by political reality. The United States is shifting responsibility in the south to the Shiite community. They can probably live with the Turks in the north, so long as they don't come south.

The real mystery is why Turkey shifted its position. Part of the answer concerns geopolitical reality. For all the stress and strain, the reality is that the United States occupies Iraq and is the dominant military power in the region. Turkey has interests in Iraq and cannot afford to be frozen out of U.S. planning for the region. Another part concerns internal politics. The Turkish military is secular and pro-United States. The government is Islamic and has mixed feelings about the United States. The military is institutionally the guardian of the secular character of the regime. In plain English, that means that the military can stage a coup if it wants. A coup wasn't near, but any Turkish government tries to take military sensibilities into account. Still, the United States promised something beyond money to Turkey. Turkey's decision is a godsend to the United States and the Turks know it. There is a price, as yet undisclosed.

It should be noted that Syria had a really bad day today. The Israelis hit it from the air and massed on the Lebanese border. The Americans probed along its eastern frontier. And apart from all this, the Turkey-U.S. deal creates a major threat from the north. Syrian-Turkish relations have not been the warmest, to say the least. Renewing cooperation with the United States puts Turkey into play to Syria's north. Apart from everything else, Damascus is feeling the heat.

In a way, this puts the U.S. core strategy back on track: first, occupy Iraq; second, bring pressure to bear on surrounding countries. Turkey's decision bolsters the U.S. position in Iraq. It also massively increases the pressure on, and isolation of, Syria. It goes without saying that it also increases the likelihood of al Qaeda striking Turkey at the first practical opportunity.

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I have to say, I have a long memory for what Turkey did at the start of the war, and also for what the Kurds in Northern Iraq accomplished. We can't pretend otherwise.

11 posted on 10/08/2003 5:57:00 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
I'm awfully glad there were Kurds battling the Communist Kurd party. And I also think we have our corrupt State Department to thank for dealing so idiotically with the Turks before the war.
12 posted on 10/08/2003 5:58:53 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon
>> what Turkey did at the start of the war

This pendulum has been swinging all along through the threatening Johnson letters in the sixties, the US embargo in the 70s, the US support for the PKK under cover of "free speach" in the nineties, etc..

We all have long memories and adjust our steps as time goes on.

Watch for honorable yet bold and shrewd moves down the road would be my guess. We all have short hairs somewhere, and the means to grab and twist. Yet it would be desirable that the pendulum stop swinging soon. An adoption of respect and honorable character may just do it.
13 posted on 10/08/2003 6:33:11 AM PDT by a_Turk (But the game never ends when your whole world depends on the turn of a friendly card..)
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To: a_Turk
The Turks behaved very badly in the runup to the Iraqi war. I suspect they were egged on by Chirac, maybe with promises of northern oil or admission to the EU.

As you say, maybe the US has at times behaved badly in the past.

Let's hope we can now start working together and do what needs to be done. We do have one important common interest with the generals: to control Islamic extremism. At this time that is probably a bigger problem than the Kurdish/Turkish feud, for both parties.
14 posted on 10/08/2003 7:29:26 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: a_Turk
This is good news. My interest in this goes beyond Iraq, there is a lot of work to be done, and preserving a friendship and building an alliance is absolutely essential. It is a matter of vision.

And since our vision is in play in the year coming up, we need some other adults to be on hand in case our adults are voted into retirement. If Bush is re-elected we will stay the course and rebuild Iraq, of that I have no doubt. And we will use our position there to apply pressure to Tehran and Damascus and Riyadh, and over the next decade we may be able to mold a Middle East that we can all live with.

But if the kids take charge again, the chance is too great that things there can spin out of control again. So we need to work fast, to get as much done as we can in the year or so that remains before the elections, and we must have a fall-back position prepared. That fall-back position is Turkey. Turkey may not like it, but the situation is on her border, and concerns her most directly. If she will help, the risks of chaos if Bush leaves office will be ammeliorated somewhat.

I don't mean that Turkey would take over occupation, but that she would be actively involved in helping the new Iraq to stabilize itself.

And if Bush retains office, there are bigger fish to fry. Riyadh and Tehran come to mind, but don't say anything, we don't want Ankara to slip off the hook when we haven't quite landed them in the boat...
15 posted on 10/08/2003 1:15:03 PM PDT by marron
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To: a_Turk
An adoption of respect and honorable character may just do it.

I hope to see that from Turkey in the present circumstances.

16 posted on 10/08/2003 3:31:36 PM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon
You're a girl, ain't 'cha?
17 posted on 10/08/2003 4:54:17 PM PDT by a_Turk (But the game never ends when your whole world depends on the turn of a friendly card..)
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To: a_Turk
You're a girl, ain't 'cha?

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

18 posted on 10/08/2003 6:35:53 PM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon
That's the answer I was expecting..

It has nothing to do with anything. I just suddenly was overcome with a feeling that I was dealing with a female of the opposite gender :)
19 posted on 10/08/2003 7:32:47 PM PDT by a_Turk (But the game never ends when your whole world depends on the turn of a friendly card..)
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To: a_Turk
Very astute of you.
20 posted on 10/08/2003 9:44:15 PM PDT by WaterDragon
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