Antics with Semantics: Why 'Pro-Life' Means Pro-Life

BreakPoint ^ | 7 Oct 03 | Chuck Colson

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[OldFriend]

Too bad I just heard Sean Hannity tell a caller that he was not against abortion in the case of rape or incest.

So pro life isn't exactly pro life for some on the right.

[cantfindagoodscreenname]

This has always been a pet peeve of mine. The pro-abortion people don't like the implications for them of the words "pro-life". Too bad. If the shoe fits.

[Arthur McGowan]

Which proves that Sean Hannity is not really a Catholic. He's a Protestant who goes to Mass at a Catholic Church.

[votelife]

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[presidio9]

Which proves that Sean Hannity is not really a Catholic. He's a Protestant who goes to Mass at a Catholic Church.

As horrible as it sounds, I might be willing to stipulate for abortions on the grounds of rape and incest. I think ALL abortions are wrong. I think abortions after rapes or incest unfairly punish the wrong person. However, they represent a tiny fraction of the total number of abortions performed in this country. I believe I have seen the figure <2%. And yet they are a top concern with the apathetic masses who keep abortion legal. If we could stop all other abortions, wouldn't this be preferrable to the situation we have now?

[Arthur McGowan]

Of course, less abortion is preferable to more abortion. My point was that Sean Hannity does not understand that he is obligated to oppose abortion, even in cases of incest and rape. There are lots of people who consider themselves Catholics. There are few who understand that being a Catholic imposes obligations.

[presidio9]

Can't argue with you there. I am Catholic and I think all abortion is wrong. Perhaps Sean was speaking more from a legal standpoint like myself. If the pro-abortionists are going to continually throw rape and incest out there, why not just take them off the table for the time being?

[OldFriend]

His attempt to explain this on the run was truly lame. Said a serious discussion would be for another time. Something about the mother to be did not choose her status.....

[OldFriend]

Sean was discussing his personal opinon about rape and incest being the exception for abortion.

[Mr. Silverback]

If he thinks the way to help a rape victim is to kill a baby, we protestants don't want him either.

[attagirl]

Sean hannity is a disappointment. He isn't real bright and he has forgotten his moorings. But he has this aura of sincerity and goodness which is misleading the more callow. pray for him.

[Mr. Silverback]

The leaders of the abortion industry don't really worry about rape and incest abortion access, they're just using that issue to keep the discussion away from the reality of what a surgical abortion is.

Also, remember what Norma "Jane Roe" McCorvey did to obtain an abortion? She claimed she was raped, when in fact the sex had been consensual. If we simply allowed rape and incest abortions, the number of "rape victims" walking into clinics will skyrocket. If we add some safeguards (the rape has to be reported and investigated, etc.) the feminists will scream about women having to go through the Spanish Inquisition to get an abortion, and we're right back at square one. No, the way to beat this is to put the focus where it belongs: on the children who are being murdered. Even in our sick age there are few people who believe a kid deserves to be ripped limb from limb because his father commited a criminal act. We also must defend the women caught in this situation, and remind folks that an abortion doesn't unrape her, or help her healing process, it just adds real guilt to the unjustified feelings of guilt many rape victims feel.

[attagirl]

I once heard Sean say he studied to be a priest. He says lots of things about Catholicism that show he is not well grounded in his faith.

Also, when someone talked about the incitings to violence in the Koran, he said, "well, in the New Testament Jesus said 'I have come not to bring not peace but the sword.'"

Which of course, aside from displaying fundamental misunderstanding, but Christianity in a compromising light.

I hardly listen to him anymore.

[OldFriend]

He is very short on humility. To say nothing of his lack of depth on the issues.

[Mr. Silverback]

Whoa, Hannity has really gone logic-free on this one. "She didn't choose her status." Does that mean she gets to rip the rapist's arms and legs off too? Do he and his child go in the same medical waste dumpster?

Hannity needs to get a grip: Either a fetus is a child or it's not. You don't kill a child because his father was a criminal.

[Mr. Silverback]

I think a lot of Freeper are to harsh on Sean, but I agree that he really lacks a consistent worldview in both religion and politics. He's also not a very good debator. I think Sean's mainly coasting on his looks.