[TopQuark]

but continue to support the machinary that keeps them in there.

This "conversation" leads nowhere: you can chase me all you want trying to corner, but the truth is, we always traded with communist countries.

And when it comes to ethics, you are confused (I do not refer to your values but to the manner in which you apply them). There is a difference between supporting someone and taking action that happens to be beneficial to someone.

Once again: your adverserial manner --- your constant imputations of motives and values --- reveals nothing but your own weakness.

I have no further comments on this matter.

[lelio]

There is a difference between supporting someone and taking action that happens to be beneficial to someone.

Very well, we agree to disagree then. I think its morally wrong to support the Chinese prison camps by trading with them. You, apparently, have no problem with it as that just happens to be what communists do -- torture and imprision people. Its like France selling weapons to Iraq -- hey they're not supporting Saddam's actions its just a trade of oil for guns.

The annoying fact that you're perpetuating their actions doesn't seem to cross your mind as they're free to treat their citizens as they want, just as a husband is free to beat his wife. Its no skin off your nose.

[1rudeboy]

If these protectionists were so concerned about the welfare of these slave-laborers in China, then they should explain how protectionism will help them. They cannot, and refuse to admit that these workers' only hope is the invisible hand of the free market.