Anomalies... So many questions in the Joe Wilson matter

National Review Online ^ | 10-07-03 | Jed Babbin

[Renfield]

I've been thinking this for some time. Someone at CIA needs to feel some heat.

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[r9etb]

If I were the president, I'd unambiguously support the leak investigation, and prosecute the leaker if he can be found. With equal urgency, I'd be working hard to find out why these anomalies exist. And wondering what other disagreeable surprises may be coming my way from the CIA in the next twelve months.

Indeed. Or perhaps Mr. Babin has bought into a canard.

Jed Babin hit a home run with his discussion of the "anomalies." And, contrary to his assertion that it's not an "anomaly," I think "not knowing" who hired Joe Wilson to perform this particular mission is probably the biggest anomaly of them all. It has a smell of plausible deniability to it -- why?

Speaking for myself, I don't think the CIA (even the PC among 'em) would be so stupid as to use Joe Wilson as their main source of intel. It's preposterous. However, if we postulate that Mr. Wilson was nothing more than an unwitting designated bozo, chosen to divert attention from the person who was really doing the investigation ...

Well, then all of those anomalies begin to add up. For example, no secrecy agreement means the CIA wanted him to blab, as they knew he would.

Why?

Well, perhaps the target isn't really Iraq alone, or even at all -- maybe it's Iran, which has admitted it has enriched uranium; or North Korea.

There's more to this....

[cookcounty]

" He's not an expert on nuclear weapons, and he's sure no expert on covert purchase of WMD-related materials. He served as an "Africa expert" in the second Clinton administration, but hadn't been in Niger since he served as a flunky in our embassy there in the early '80s. He did serve — with courage — as acting ambassador in Baghdad in 1990. He had no unique or current knowledge of Niger, but he does have deeply felt political views which cannot have resulted from some recent epiphany. "

And the US press, with it's usual sloppiness, allowed us to think Joe Wilson is a former Ambassador to Niger. Slowly, very slowly, the truth is oozing out on this slimey affair.

[jawz]

Imus was talking to Joe Wilson this AM and Wilson would not give a straight answer as to whether or not Wilson's wife was an undercover operative - told Imus he would have to ask the CIA that. ??????

Wilson also said he was unaware of any specific threats made against his wife at this point (as a result of her identity being disclosed).

[NotQuiteCricket]

"A senior intelligence-community source told me that no one as vocal as Wilson could possibly be bound to the usual security agreement"

*snort* Who signed off on his expense report? This is government we are talking about, they don't just hand out money with out someone signing off on it - get the expense report and you have the person who authorized his trip. He had to fill out a request, get someone to sign it, and then turn it in to get his $$. Freedom of information act? It is not like he was on a secret "mission" because he didn't sign a security agreement. There you go.

[pointsal]

ping and double ping

[Cobra Scott]

Don't you need a special investigative committee for that? After all, like you said, this is government we are talking about, LOL!

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Great article. Jed Babbin is a brave man.

Wilson's "investigation" was patently inadequate. According to his op-ed, he made no effort to talk to the IAEA, Niger military or intelligence authorities. Dr. Hamza told me in considerable detail about a highly organized and well-financed black-market operation by Saddam's regime to buy every sort of nuclear weapons-related equipment and materials. It's not hard to suborn people with enough money, or to buy uranium and smuggle it out of places such as Niger. Over time, any amount could be smuggled out to Iraq.

Please read. The investigation into this leak could answer some important questions and expose some very real domestic (and foreign) enemies of the President.

 Thanks, Tonkin!

[bushfamfan]

You hear all sorts of things about what Wilson's job was at the CIA. I'll venture to say it appears from the evasiveness that she wasn't involved in the most important work for the CIA. And Wilson himself is now crying that their lives may be in danger, but he had just said previously they aren't in danger. The CIA should have to answer to why Wilson was sent to Niger to begin with. He is not exactly apolitical and is to be questioned in his report. It's so much easier for the administration to do that than going to these supposed tactics to 'out' his wife for political reasons. And Wilson is crossing the line attacking and indicting Karl Rove. Wilson is a born liar.

[NotQuiteCricket]

I guess I'm naive, but it doesn't seem like it would be that difficult to get to the bottom of the Wilson issue.

marron's questions:
1. First, since when did the CIA appoint itself to engaging publicly in policy debates?
2. Why did they have to send a non-employee to investigate something that should have been a high priority?
3. What happened to their African assets? Have they none?
4.Why did that non-employee sent to investigate, not investigate?
5. And finally, why are they lending their aid and support to this charade?

NotQuiteCricket's questions:
6. Who signed off in the CIA on sending Wilson?
7. Who authorized his reimbursement for expenses?
8. To whom did he report on his return?
9. What is his wife's job title?

Are questions raised on this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/992471/posts

Like you say, it is the government - and they probably have 4 shipping containers full of paper to sift through, but I thought they knew how to file? Aren't computers involved? Let me get at the database, and I'll get it figured out in a week.

[Alamo-Girl]

Indeed. I suspect that the Democrats may deeply regret having made such a stink!

[OldFriend]

Just called Congressman King's office and suggested he get a transcript of that conversation Wilson had with Imus this morning. It was full of contradictions to say the least.

It's pretty sad when Imus gives the hardest questions asked of this traitor.

[prairiebreeze]

thanks RC. Saw this info about King on another thread. About time!

Prairie

[js1138]

However, if we postulate that Mr. Wilson was nothing more than an unwitting designated bozo, chosen to divert attention from the person who was really doing the investigation ...

[Grampa Dave]

Here is the guy who arranged this trip without Tenet's or GW's knowledge, Alan Foley who just retired/resigned from the CIA.

If Wilson did not sign the normal secrecy agreements that are required before and after such a trip, Foley is the perp who allowed this to happen.

Here is what the mediots have hidden from America. The CIA boss of Plame has just recently retired/resigned.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/995426/posts?q=1&&page=44

AUGUST 29, 2003 : (ALAN FOLEY, HEAD OF THE WEAPONS INTELLIGENCE, NONPROLIFERATION, AND ARMS CONTROL CENTER ANNOUNCES HIS PLANS TO LEAVE THE CIA) A top CIA expert on weapons of mass destruction, who became embroiled in controversy over whether the White House stretched evidence about Iraq's programs, said he planned to leave the agency in October. Alan Foley, who heads the Weapons Intelligence, Nonproliferation, and Arms Control Center, told colleagues in a note dated Aug. 29 that he had been "thinking about life after the agency for some time" and decided to leave after 26 years to enter the private sector. ...While I can't prevent the inevitable speculation that will be generated by the timing of my decision, I want you to know that this is something that I decided entirely on my own," Foley said in the note, obtained by Reuters on Wednesday. "I can't deny that the pressures of the past few months have not weighed heavily in my mind, but there are many other aspects to my decision, not the least of which is that I'm intrigued by the prospect of trying my hand at a second career in the private sector," he said. - "Head of CIA Weapons Analysis Program Leaving," Reuters , 09-10-03
* Remember Joseph Wilson......this is his wife Valerie Plame's boss.2 posted on 09/10/2003 5:39 PM PDT by Dog
* Isn't it fascinating that we would have a new poster today talking about intelligence blunders and such? On the same day that Mr. Foley's resignation is made known. Quite a coincidence, isn't it?10 posted on 09/10/2003 6:21 PM PDT by Miss Marple
* Thanks for the ping, I believe Foley want's out before any investigation gets underway about Joseph Wilson & his wife's involvement in this whole Niger smear attempt 14 posted on 09/10/2003 6:35 PM PDT by MJY1288

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Here is a possible scenario of this mess. Foley, Plame and Wilson with the help of the Clintoons and ?, cooked up this non event trip to Niger for Wilson.

Tenet was not aware of it as he had more serious things to keep track of. Tenet saw the report when Wilson got back and basically said it had little value.

The Rats kept this report on their back burner until they released their Yellowcake Scam I in July. That failed thanks to the internet with the exact 16 words that GW used in his SOTU address.

So they put it back on the back burner and started Yellowcake II which is the non exposure of Plame, a very good friend of $inator Hildebea$t. They blogged this non exposure story until they needed it.

They needed it to distract from Kay's report and the fact that the muslim traitors in Gitmo had connections to American Muslims who had donated money to the Hildebea$t which helped her to become $inator Hildebea$t.

So they and their bed butt buddies, the mediots and videoits went whacko for the first time in their lives that there had been exposure of a really secret CIA agent.

Now we know that she was not an agent, and it was no secret around the DC area that she worked for the CIA.

I think that Alan Foley, the newly retiring/resigning boss of Plame is a very guilt person in this whole mess. He and Wilson planned Wilson's trip as a trip wire to harm GW at some later time.

Many of us feel that the two CIA agents in the BBC lies about Yellowcake were Wilson and Plame.


Posted on 10/07/2003 8:20 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Fight Liberalism 24/7/365 for only 17 cents / day. Donate $5 monthly to Free Republic.)

[The Electrician]

We still don't know (well, we do, but nobody will admit it in public) who hired Craig Livingstone. No doubt it was the same shadowy person who hired Joe Wilson.

[mewzilla]

Wilson said he meat with 6-8 people, some CIA, some not? Who were they? If we find that out, it should tell us a lot...

[mewzilla]

meat=met

[BOBTHENAILER]

So they put it back on the back burner and started Yellowcake II which is the non exposure of Plame, a very good friend of $inator Hildebea$t. They blogged this non exposure story until they needed it.

Clear your schedule for the next few months and write the BOOK about this NOW. I think you're onto something here.