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CA: Appraisals, please - Davis should reveal why land is good deal
Sac Bee ^ | 10/6/03

Posted on 10/06/2003 10:54:40 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/12/2004 5:59:09 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

In the final days before the recall election, the Davis administration is rushing through three huge land purchases totaling nearly $300 million without revealing the appraisals that justify the prices. All of the owners have contributed generously to Davis in recent years, approximately $163,000 as tallied by the San Jose Mercury News. The secrecy smells.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: ahmansonranch; appraisals; ballonawetlands; calgov2002; davis; gooddeal; grizzlycreek; land; landgrab; pacificlumber; please
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1 posted on 10/06/2003 10:54:41 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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2 posted on 10/06/2003 10:55:21 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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3 posted on 10/06/2003 10:58:08 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Doesn't the California Public Records Act cover this?
4 posted on 10/06/2003 11:04:50 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: NormsRevenge
I do belive another crook-acting-as-govenor in Tennessee was stealing from the state in his last dying days. The feds stepped in & clamped down on his theivery.

Bush should do the same thing here, as Greyout will have to be taken kicking & screaming from his position of power.

He'll hang around until Thanksgiving..................

5 posted on 10/06/2003 11:06:22 AM PDT by TeleStraightShooter
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To: John Jorsett
I think the issue is making the appraisals available BEFORE the sale to justify the price. It sounds like a smokescreen. Past appraisals, when provided, have also had information redacted.

From Mercury News:

Concerns of privacy
State officials including Resources Secretary Mary Nichols have argued that releasing too many documents, particularly appraisals, before the deals are signed and completed would drive away potential sellers who are worried about privacy issues if the land transactions fall through.

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/6904340.htm
6 posted on 10/06/2003 11:11:19 AM PDT by calcowgirl (Right Wing Crazy #4052977)
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To: John Jorsett
Sure. In a few months, you'll be able to get the records. After Davis is out of power and living in exile in France. LOL!
7 posted on 10/06/2003 11:15:32 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: NormsRevenge; redlipstick; onyx; Poohbah; Tamsey; BibChr; My2Cents; habs4ever; ...
The purchases involve the Ahmanson Ranch in Ventura and Los Angeles counties...

Just to clarify - the Ahmanson Ranch just bought by cash strapped California for environmental protection purposes was sold by an Ahmanson controlled company.

Why is this relevant? Ahmanson has long been a patron of the career of one certain candidate, a Thomas McClintock, who has managed to create problems for the GOP frontrunner - acts which could be seen as supporting the Democratic power structure in control of California.

8 posted on 10/06/2003 11:24:00 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: The Old Hoosier
In a few months, you'll be able to get the records.M

if they haven't been shredded.

9 posted on 10/06/2003 11:27:12 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: NormsRevenge; redlipstick; onyx; Poohbah; Tamsey; BibChr; My2Cents; habs4ever; ...
The purchases involve the Ahmanson Ranch in Ventura and Los Angeles counties...

Another salient point - this land was slated to be developed by the Ahmanson controlled company, but there was considerable opposition brewing, and it was very possible that no development would be approved politically, dinminishing the value of the land considerably.

10 posted on 10/06/2003 11:28:04 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: NormsRevenge
In the final days before the recall election, the Davis administration is rushing through three huge land purchases totaling nearly $300 million without revealing the appraisals that justify the prices. All of the owners have contributed generously to Davis in recent years, approximately $163,000 as tallied by the San Jose Mercury News. The secrecy smells.

Don't be such an idiot.
Industrial grade shredders take care of the weirdest crimes.

Problems solved.

11 posted on 10/06/2003 11:34:28 AM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
My, my, lookie here:

http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~lcrew/joyanyway/joy122.html

Ahmanson served on Chalcedon's board for 23 years and, according to records at California's Registry of Charitable Trusts, has contributed more than $1 million to Chalcedon. He also has given money to other Christian Reconstructionist causes which do not require public disclosure.

Rushdoony is known as "the Father of Christian Reconstructionism," a form of dominion theology with a to put the world, and the United States in particular, under biblical law. Biblical law is defined as the 600-plus laws that are found mostly in the Old Testament's book of Leviticus.

Ahmanson himself acknowledged in a rare interview in 1995 published in the Orange County Register that, "My purpose is total integration of biblical law into our lives."

An Ahmanson political ally and former minority leader in the California state Senate, Rob Hurtt Jr., said in a Los Angeles Times interview, that he would like to send gays to jail for 20 years. But under Rushdoony's biblical law, homosexuals would be put to death.

12 posted on 10/06/2003 11:39:56 AM PDT by EllaMinnow (Life is too important to be taken seriously.)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
You do know what the implication is, don't you? That Tommy was bought by Chalcedon to stay in the race and Davis approved, provided he signed off on the land deal....I hope Governor Arnold has the ablity to nix this deal once in office.I wonder if there is a job at Ahmanson in Tom's future.

I'd sure hate to think Vestal Virgin McClintock was involved in such a blatant quid pro quo, but who'd have thought he'd go to Colorado one weekend and come back with 100k and dig in deeper against his fellow Republican?
13 posted on 10/06/2003 11:43:26 AM PDT by habs4ever
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
More relevancy:

http://www.oaklandtribune.com/Stories/0,1413,82~1865~1642438,00.html

McClintock also has received help from the conservative California Republican Assembly and conservative Southern California savings and loan heir Howard Ahmanson, who collectively spent more than $125,000 for phone banks on his behalf.

14 posted on 10/06/2003 11:43:31 AM PDT by EllaMinnow (Life is too important to be taken seriously.)
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To: habs4ever
Blatant quid pro quo? McTalk? Who'da thunk it?

Of course, McTalk is too stupid to figure out a beautiful play like that on his own - he was the perfect patsy. Wind him up, and he starts believing his own crap. Its perfect for Ahmanson - somebody working 100% for your agenda that is too dumb to figure out how he is being used.

15 posted on 10/06/2003 11:49:01 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: redlipstick
McClintock also has received help from the conservative California Republican Assembly and conservative Southern California savings and loan heir Howard Ahmanson, who collectively spent more than $125,000 for phone banks on his behalf.

What!!! He received money from conservatives and from conservative organizations!?!?!?! The inhumanity...

16 posted on 10/06/2003 11:50:25 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
And if Schwarzenegger weren't running, the papers would be full of articles linking McClintock to Ahmanson and Chalcedon.
17 posted on 10/06/2003 11:52:04 AM PDT by EllaMinnow (Life is too important to be taken seriously.)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Unless he was promised a VP job with them once he gets his ass canned in the next election.I sure hope Regnery isn't lining up to do the Tom McClintock Story....
18 posted on 10/06/2003 11:52:52 AM PDT by habs4ever
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To: EternalVigilance
A group that thinks homosexuals should be killed.
Do you go that far, Evie?
19 posted on 10/06/2003 11:52:59 AM PDT by EllaMinnow (Life is too important to be taken seriously.)
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To: redlipstick
It makes you wonder - did Ahmanson assume that his involvement would disappear in the mass of confusing stories, thereby overplaying his hand?
20 posted on 10/06/2003 11:53:10 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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