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To: sonsofliberty2000
im still trying to understand the rationale for israel entering another country to destroy an islamic jihad facility... im also trying to understand bush making that comment about "defending oneself"... im also interested in knowing if syria condemned the attacks on israel and what
they are doing to prevent future attacks... can anyone answer this? i understand that israel was attacked in a most gruesome way, but shouldnt they have at least consulted with syria before just launching an attack in its territories? consistent with bush's foreign policy history, after going in and kicking afghanistan & iraq regimes out for defending terrorists, i guess he's trying to make a point to syria as well... if syria wont at least condemn these attacks on israel then they are no better than terrorists and should be considered that way, and dealt with.

im on bush's side, but i think he's starting to lose control of the situation that 9/11 created...
19 posted on 10/06/2003 9:52:32 AM PDT by Mxyzptlk
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To: Mxyzptlk
"i guess he's trying to make a point to syria as well... if syria wont at least condemn these attacks on israel then they are no better than terrorists and should be considered that way, and dealt with."

There ya go. See, it's really pretty simple, isn't it?

21 posted on 10/06/2003 9:57:08 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Veni Vidi Velcro)
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To: Mxyzptlk
at least consulted with syria before just launching an attack

DUCK!

Consultation over. . .

24 posted on 10/06/2003 10:29:40 AM PDT by Flyer (Visit the Houston Chapter - http://houstonliberty.com/forums/ * (when it works)
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To: Mxyzptlk
Since you're a newbie, let me save you from the 'DU troll police' and answer your question before you get lit up. They've been a little triggerhappy lately, but I think you are trying to ask reasonable enough questions. Here goes:

im still trying to understand the rationale for israel entering another country to destroy an islamic jihad facility...

Syria is a sponsor of Islamic Jihad, which conducts terror attacks in Israel. They offer Islam Jihad safe haven, diplomatic cover, bases, and logistical support, in return for a proxy fighting force they can use against Isreal. Isreal is too powerful for Syria to attack direcly, so they seek to weaken them using third party terrorist groups such as JI, Hamas, etc. (Iran is actually the grandmaster of this game, but Syria is close and equally guilty)

im also trying to understand bush making that comment about "defending oneself"...

The attacks against Israel would not have been possible without Syrian support. Israel is attacking the command and control center of a hostile organization, which would constitute self defense.

im also interested in knowing if syria condemned the attacks on israel and what they are doing to prevent future attacks...

Syria does not make a habit of condeming terrorist attacks. They usually make the arguement that Israel had it coming, and can expect more of the same, while denying any responsibility themselves. They have no interest in preventing further attacks permently, however Syria will often restrict their subordinate groups from action, or tell them to increase their attacks, depending on Syria's political needs.

i understand that israel was attacked in a most gruesome way, but shouldnt they have at least consulted with syria before just launching an attack in its territories?

So they could ready their air defenses? What for? The official position of the Syrian government is that there are no terrorist groups in Syria. The persons and organizations that are considered terrorists by us are not by Syria. The only terrorist organization they believe exists in the middle east is the IDF.

consistent with bush's foreign policy history, after going in and kicking afghanistan & iraq regimes out for defending terrorists, i guess he's trying to make a point to syria as well...

if syria wont at least condemn these attacks on israel then they are no better than terrorists and should be considered that way, and dealt with.

Words are words, actions are actions. Syria is clearly known to all as a sponsor of these groups, whether or not anyone agrees on the definition of 'terrorist'.

im on bush's side, but i think he's starting to lose control of the situation that 9/11 created...</>

On the contrary, he's warmed up and working wonders.

25 posted on 10/06/2003 10:30:26 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (Too close for guns, switching to missiles!)
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To: Mxyzptlk
but shouldnt they have at least consulted with syria before just launching an attack in its territories?

Just like we (the US) should have consulted the Taliban before we went into Afghanistan after Osama.....?

Syria is a KNOWN terrorist state that is one of the biggest supporters of Hamas and the palestinian terrorists, as well as terrorists around the WORLD.

As far as I am concerned, if Israel wanted to blow Syria off the face of the earth, they would have many legitimate reasons to do so. The fact that their strike killed zero tells me that they in fact did use restraint.

I also haven't heard Syria deny that the Israeli target was a Hamas training center. They are only focusing on the "unjust" violation of Syria's sovereignty.

29 posted on 10/06/2003 10:50:51 AM PDT by TheBattman
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To: Mxyzptlk
Syria made the typical statement of "we condemn the bombing of innocent civilians but understand armed Islamic resistance against Israeli agression" -

In other words, we (Syria) support (economically and militarily) Islamic Jihad and civilian targets as long as it it called "Islamic resistance". Israel has heard enough proxy BS in the last 30 years to write a new Koran.

No, after 30 years I do not think Israel should consult. Israel is being slowly strangled to death. They should defend themselves by attacking the true source which they have know about for years.
33 posted on 10/06/2003 12:34:13 PM PDT by quant5
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To: Mxyzptlk
If you say your name backwards do you disappear, or does Superman reappear?
37 posted on 10/06/2003 3:18:13 PM PDT by trebb
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To: Mxyzptlk
Your statement shows a much too kind approach to a nest of diseased cockroaches! This is what you have to settle in your mind. Did they telegraph their intentions before they attacked The Jewish Nation? Certainly not! Rules mean nothing to these sub human knuckle draggers. The only law they practice is that of the Jungle! Can you spell Death? This is the only thing they understand and they die like a nest of exterminated cockroaches. Here is what you must ascribe to to join the good guys. You must be willing to kill all of them! I mean every last one of them. They will never give up and this is not intended to "Pacify" your sensibilities. I will smack you in the gut with it once again,; you have got to be willing to Kill every last one of Them. If not you are part of the problem not part of the solution! This is not for the Squemish or the faint of heart. They will hunt you down and cut your head off and not miss a nights sleep worrying over who you are or who you voted for! This is all out war pal!
43 posted on 10/06/2003 6:40:58 PM PDT by winker
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To: Mxyzptlk
i understand that israel was attacked in a most gruesome way, but shouldnt they have at least consulted with syria before just launching an attack in its territories?

ROFL!

46 posted on 10/07/2003 7:06:36 AM PDT by Smile-n-Win (Islam is a religion of perversion and a perversion of religion.)
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