[BlackElk]

If Dubya can carry New York, it will have everything to do with 9/11 and nothing to do with Pataki. Dubya won't be carrying California, particularly if the GOP there is turned over to soulless surrender monkeys.

Arnie, Wilson and Buffett have one ambition: stripmining Gollyvornia taxpayers for a few years. They will say what they think needs to be said to facilitate that ambition.

Their existence delays the return to sanity of Gollyvornia by a few years if Arnie loses and for many if he wins (since the GOP will be blamed for the entire mess under hapless Arnie manipulated by Wilson and Buffett).

If New York had kept re-electing Cuoumo, it might have wound up with senators like Chuckie Schumer and Mrs. Arkansas Antichrist. But New York did not re-elect Cuomo and nonetheless ........

[Reagan Disciple]

I don't get the Dubya-NY-Pataki reference since the GOP never won NY under Pataki anyway.

Unless you doubt that California comes into play in terms of Boxer's seat which could be a great win for the national party, especially if Tom runs for it and gets it backed by a popular gov.

Another example - Rudy is a good bet to oust Hillary in 2006 and he is no where close to being conservative. Would you rail against him simply because he's pro-choice and risk having Hillary on the national stage in 2008 or do you throw your support behind him because he brings a greater good to the national effort.

Arnold should be viewed in this light as well. And if he can help Tom go after Boxer and win - all the better.