Arnold's corruption of Republican Party

World Net Daily ^ | 10/6/2003 | ALAN KEYES

[sd-joe]

>> "He gets a majority without Arnold in the race. That will do it." <<

That ignores reality.

1) Arnold IS in the race, and all the wishing in the world doesn't change that.

2) If Arnold WASN'T in the race, Davis and his evil minions would be attacking McC instead of Arnold, just like he wiped out Simon. All the millions of Indian Casino money that went to McC and helped prop up his poll numbers would be used AGAINST him instead.

McC has benefited from a tremendous amount of support from the Demonrat allies.

[headsonpikes]

They operate in politics as the AIDS virus operates in the body...

This Keyes character has a real gift for metaphor.

(/sarc)

I never realized what a simple-minded and divisive rhetoric-spouter he was until reading this article. Why is anyone impressed by this brute?

[Teacher317]

120 posts in 42 minutes... this is going to be a fun election eve! ;^)

[Reagan Disciple]

Has Keyes forgotten this is California? The basic tenents of conservatism do not apply out there.

It's a blue, baby-killer state and will be for the foreseeable future. No way a guy like McClintock will ever get elected to a state office because he stands on the wrong side of every issue (life, taxes, guns) that the majority of the wackos out there hold near and dear.

The national party is better off with Arnold in there since it puts CA in play in 2004. Tom would better serve the party if he took on Boxer and got a push from Arnold. Tom's views are what we need to change/form national policy and offset the likes of Hillary and Schumer.

Take this from a core conservative from the blue, baby-killer state of NY. I'm surrounded by liberals and have the ultimate morpher in Pataki as my gov. Despite his pro-choice stand, his playing footsie with the medical workers union, his need for spending - I would much rather have him than Cuomo any day and I have a tax receipts to prove it! I would think that those in CA would take Arnold over Cruz even if Tom is who they identify with.

We have survived a major defection (Jeffords - major because he took the majority, not because of the man), leadership fallout (both Newt and Lott), and having detestable people like Snowe and Chaffee flying our flag.

Arnold is not going to bring the party down but he will give Bush a chance to take CA if he can get the local economy pointing (not recovered) in the right direction be late next year.

As always, some GOPers just can't help stepping over the crack only to trip on the log.

[carton253]

But, the platform is voted and agreed on by the majority. it is not a unanimous decision. Should the minority now have to seek another party? Can a party's umbrella be big enough to include even the minority? If it can't, it will soon head for extinction... because a collaboration of people cannot agree about everything all the time.

[EternalVigilance]

The country isn't getting more liberal.

If the country is getting more liberal, why are we now the majority party in the USA?

If the country is getting more liberal, why does every poll show more and more people becoming pro-life every year?

If the country is getting more liberal, why do the American people support the war on terror and hold the anti-war idiots in contempt?


I could go on, but you get the picture. Your assumptions are wrong.

[SunStar]

And we have watched a thirty day temper tantrum because the Republican Party wouldn't do as they say... Now, they are going to go pout in a corner and call us names...

And we have watched a thirty day temper tantrum because conservative Republicans wouldn't do as the party commands... Now, Arnold supporters are going to go pout in a corner and call us names...

[Howlin]

"...a person would come to me and say, "Well, you've got to acknowledge that we've got to get rid of Bill Clinton, that's the worse evil possible," and I tried to explain to them, no, the evil that you know, the evil that you recognize, the evil that inspires you to fight against it, that's not the worse evil you can face. The worst evil you can face is the insidious evil that creeps behind your lines, that demoralizes your leadership, that confuses your commitment and your understanding and that, in the end, defeats you, not because your enemy overwhelms you but because in your confusion, your doubt, and your lack of commitment to those things, you overwhelm yourself. And I'm watching it happen right now. I watched the run-up to the stem cell research decision on the part of President Bush. Now, part of me was impatient with the whole process that we were going through because I watched the media hyping the "judicious" and "agonizing" decision that he was making, and I've got to tell you, there are times when somebody comes to me and says, "Oh, I'm agonizing over this decision," and the very fact that their agonizing tells me they don't understand the decision. "

[sd-joe]

Well said.

[TomasUSMC]

If Arnold's social views--
are irrelevant on the gubernatorial level, then why does he take the wrong side on them. Why is he in favor of killing 3000 innocent babies every day? Why is Arnold saying "Deportation is not an option". Why does Arnold turn his back and become a coward instead of defending the law of the land? He should do everything against abortion and the Illegal Immigrant Invasion that Davis and Bustamonte do for it. Even the Nazi's and Hitler weren't this bad.
Arnold and his troops = Holocaust of Abortion and Illegal Immigrant Invasion
He should change his name to Benedict Arnold

Vote for McClintock to defend U.S.

[EternalVigilance]

The basic tenents of conservatism do not apply out there.

Balderdash.

But even if you were right, how do you figure that conservatives supporting liberals help change that dynamic. Think, man.

[EternalVigilance]

You're living in the past.

[carton253]

You are talking about two different issues. And if your conscience dictates that you need to find a different party, then go out and find one that agrees with you or start your own.

My complaint is that if I don't walk lock-step with you on issues that I'm not as good a Republican as you. That is nothing more than play-ground behavior. A Republican can be pro-choice.

[Howlin]

He loves to throw around those condemnations, doesn't he?

As if he's so perfect.

But if he doesn't say these things, he's totally irrelevant.

[SunStar]

But being a conservative and being a Republican can be two different things. A distinction that you will not make and belittle those who can make it.

This site purports to be a conservative one, rather than a Republican one...

[Howlin]

I'm sure you wish we couldn't produce the exact words he said.

Is it your job 24/7 to make sure NOBODY says a bad word about Alan Keyes without you refuting it?

[sinkspur]

Thanks. Does anybody have any doubt to whom Keyes was referring with all his "evil" denunciations?

[Howlin]

Where does it say that Republicans need not apply?

[carton253]

And you are getting pretty tired. From what I've read, not all Arnold supporters are "attacking" Dr. Keyes... they are disagreeing with them. That does not make them bankrupt. Find another argument because you've worn out this one.

[SunStar]

why do people keep thinking that the governor decides if abortion is legal?

Governor Davis signed MANY abortion-related bills. You should do some homework before making statements like the one above.