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To: oldfart
So what's the big deal? I've always thought California was revolting...

Spoken like a true FR Kalifornia hater. A perfect example of why the opinions of Freepers outside of California are not only completely worthless, they are also jealous, bitter and petty.

9 posted on 10/06/2003 11:15:28 AM PDT by Smogger
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To: Smogger
Unfortunately (in any sense of the word), I speak from experience. I had the misfortune to spend twelve years of my life in California, hoping all the while that what I was living through was some anomaly and that things would get better. Well, things did get better, but I had to move back to Oregon to benefit from the improvement.

Don't get me wrong, Oregon isn't heaven, but it's a lot better than California. Evidently there are a lot of others who feel the same way too. Both Ryder and U-Haul are offering cut rates to anyone who wants to rent one of their trucks to go south. It doesn't seem to work very well though, they have to hire drivers to take units to the Bay Area and give them bus fare back home.

If you love California I salute you. But I wish you (or someone) could explain to me why-- if the state is so great-- so many people are leaving, only to be replaced by a horde of illegals from even further south. California does have some nice places, like the Sierras and the northern counties, but even those places are rapidly becoming trash pits. The last time I climbed Mt. Whitney I had to walk carefully to keep from stepping in piles of $h!t. The good citizens of California seem to have an aversion to picking up after themselves. I'm sure there are many people who are good, clean, public-spirited citizens, but the average seems to be best represented by the denizens of the primate exhibit at the zoo.

10 posted on 10/06/2003 9:35:57 PM PDT by oldfart ("All governments and all civilizations fall... eventually. Our government is not immune.)
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