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Slaying theories involve devil, Nazis, art
The Mercury News ^ | Oct 6, 2003 | Julia Prodis Sulek

Posted on 10/06/2003 5:46:03 AM PDT by runningbear

Slaying theories involve devil, Nazis, art

Posted on Mon, Oct. 06, 2003

Slaying theories involve devil, Nazis, art

HEARING OCT. 20 IN CASE OF MODESTO HOMEMAKER

By Julia Prodis Sulek
Mercury News

MODESTO - Nazi Low Riders named Dirty and Skeeter, an old Satanic cult called the Order of Lion, and bizarre paintings of decapitated women and floating fetuses. These are the latest surreal elements in the Laci Peterson murder case.

Who could have guessed that the death of this pregnant homemaker who watched ``Martha Stewart Living'' each morning and had a wine-of-the-month club membership would be intertwined with such seamy images?

But no theory, it seems, is too far-fetched for a case that feeds tabloid headlines and talk show debates. Two especially macabre scenarios have arisen as the Oct. 20 preliminary hearing approaches.

One centers on a jailhouse informant who passed a lie-detector test after claiming two gang thugs were hired to kill Peterson's wife. The other resurrects a decade-old quadruple homicide outside Modesto by devil worshipers who believed the purest sacrifice is the killing of a newborn baby.

One scenario could send Peterson to the death chamber. The other could set him free. Could either be true? Or has a thirst for the sensational spawned titillating tales when the reality may be something far simpler: a cheating husband killing his wife to be with his mistress?

The prosecution is expected to push that more simple theory when it lays out its case for the first time at Peterson's preliminary hearing in Modesto. But until then the focus has shifted to bald, tattooed gangsters and robe-clad Satanists.

The Nazi Low Riders

It was only two weeks ago that Cory Carroll, a Fresno jail inmate, issued a startling statement: Scott Peterson used him to set up a murder-for-hire.

According to Carroll's lawyer, Frank Muna, it started in early November last year at a Fresno strip club called City Lights. After seeing Carroll's prison identification card when he paid for a drink, Peterson struck up a conversation. They spent the next several hours together watching the dancers, shooting pool and bar hopping.

``Scott mentioned he would like to buy his wife a new car for Christmas,'' but if he sold the old one he didn't think he would get much money for it, said Muna, who grew up in East San Jose. ``He asked my client if he knew anyone willing to steal the car so he could claim it on his insurance.''

Peterson offered him $300 to make an introduction, Muna said. A couple of weeks later, on Nov. 29, Carroll brought Peterson together with Dirty and Skeeter, members of the Nazi Low Riders, a notorious prison gang known for murder, extortion and drug running.

The foursome gathered at Best Budget motel, where Carroll lived and worked as a maintenance man, Muna said. There, Peterson made a far more sinister proposal.

``He solicited the two guys, Dirty and Skeeter, to get rid of his wife -- first to kidnap his wife, then to get rid of her,'' Muna said. ``My client didn't want any part of that so he left. He ran into Dirty and Skeeter a half-hour later, and they told my client they were going to take care of what Scott wanted.''

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Frequent phone companions

Frequent phone companions

By GARTH STAPLEY and JOHN COTÉ

BEE STAFF WRITERS

Published: October 4, 2003, 07:27:19 AM PDT

Scott Peterson and his lover exchanged at least 37 telephone calls in the four weeks after she revealed their relationship at a Jan. 24 televised news conference, according to partial phone records. Authorities secretly taped their conversations for 3 1/2 weeks. Amber Frey's calls to the married man would continue for 15 days after the wiretaps stopped on Feb. 4, according to the records.

Whether Frey knew about the wiretaps -- or knew when they ended -- is not clear.

But the records suggest that Frey, who first contacted Modesto police on Dec. 30, cooperated with authorities. She appears to have regularly called Modesto police Detective Jon Buehler upon hanging up with Peterson, even after authorities stopped bugging his phones.

Peterson, 30, is charged with killing his wife, Laci, and their unborn son. Prosecutors believe Peterson pretended to know nothing about their deaths as thousands searched for the pregnant woman after she was reported missing Dec. 24. The bodies of mother and son were found in mid-April.

Though he had steadfastly denied Bee reports of the affair, Peterson reversed course in a half-dozen media interviews starting four days after Frey's Jan. 24 news conference. He admitted lying about his relationship with the 28-year-old massage therapist from Fresno, and said he had discussed it with his wife in early December. Frey has said she didn't know Peterson was married when they met Nov. 20.

The phone records show Peterson and Frey exchanged at least 76 calls over nine turbulent weeks that started nine days before Laci Peterson's disappearance. The calls stretched through the holidays, emotional news conferences, her birthday and the due date for Peterson's son before apparently ending Feb. 19.

On Feb. 10, Frey dialed Peterson's numbers four times -- and didn't call Buehler at all. The night before, the former lovers spoke for 34 minutes. Feb. 10 held significant events for both:

It was Frey's 28th birthday.

It marked Laci Peterson's due date.

Friends and family of Laci Peterson prayed in East La Loma Park, which volunteers had searched many times. Peterson was at home that evening, a short walk from the park.

Nude photos of Frey taken four years earlier first hit some National Enquirer newsstands.

Frey has spoken privately about receiving seven calls from Peterson on Valentine's Day. Phone records show she called Peterson once that day as well, and again at 2:42 a.m. the following day. Frey didn't immediately report either call to Buehler.

The phone records show:

Frey called Buehler's office phone, cell phone and home phone 191 times in a three-month stretch ending March 14, totaling more than 19 hours of conversation. Many of the calls came immediately after Frey's conversations with Peterson.

Frey and Buehler averaged nearly 16 calls and 1 1/2 hours of phone time per week.

Frey didn't call Peterson on Jan. 24. That evening, she stunned observers by going public with their relationship. The next day, they exchanged at least three calls.

The two spoke at least once on Jan. 27, the day Peterson taped his mea culpa for ABC's "Good Morning America." After the show aired the first segment of a two-part interview with Diane Sawyer the next day, Frey called Peterson's cell phone for a call that lasted 23 minutes.

That night, she phoned him again -- and the call lasted 52 minutes.

Frey also phoned Sawyer's office on Feb. 22. An assistant to Sawyer said the show has been trying for months to book an interview with Frey, without success.

Though police reported no new developments Feb. 1, records show a flurry of calls that day between Frey and Peterson, and Frey and Buehler.

Frey called Peterson's number nine times on two of his cell phones and spoke for almost 90 minutes. She called Buehler 19 times the same day, with the calls lasting a total of 61 minutes.

She also placed two calls that morning to Melvin King, a former Fresno police lieutenant who operates a polygraph and private investigation service. King refused Friday to say why Frey called.

King popped onto the Peterson media scene two weeks ago in connection with another aspect of the case. At a lawyer's request, he gave a lie-detector test earlier in the month to a jail inmate who claims that before his arrest he heard Scott Peterson discussing a plot to kidnap Laci Peterson with two members of a vicious neo-Nazi gang.

King has said that Cory Lee Carroll passed the polygraph.

In the nine weeks reflected in the partial phone records, Frey and Peterson totaled more than 8 1/2 hours in phone conversations -- an average of nearly one hour per week of phone time.

Frey's fingers busy dialing

Frey, who has shunned interviews, had at least some contact with several media companies from mid-January through mid-March.

Records show that in addition to phoning ABC's Sawyer, she called CNN's Connie Chung, a Fox News affiliate in Santa Monica and Fortune magazine. She also placed five calls to People magazine.

Frey last called Peterson on Feb. 19 at 7:36 a.m., the second day of a two-day search by police of Peterson's home. Investigators carried out dozens of bags of items.

The day before, police drove Peterson's white Dodge pickup away and returned it several hours later. State Attorney General Bill Lockyer would later say that police used global positioning satellite devices in the case and were tracking Peterson's truck.

Prosecutors might have put out information in an attempt to induce Peterson into making damaging statements that the wiretaps would pick up, Assistant San Francisco District Attorney James Hammer has said.

A week after a judge approved wiretaps on two of Peterson's cell phones, The Bee reported Peterson was having an affair with an unknown woman. That day, Frey dialed Peterson's phones twice -- and called Bueh- ler seven times.

At some point in January, prosecutors also confronted Peterson with a rare pre-arrest plea offer: They would take a possible death penalty off the table if Peterson would lead investigators to the body.

"It's called tickling," Hammer said. "They are going to dangle the death penalty and see if he gets scared enough to say stupid things."

DA nipped wiretap

But information from the wiretaps appears to have been of limited value to prosecutors.

According to court documents, the district attorney's office had asked a judge to cut off the first wiretap early, saying "further progress in the investigation would not be gained through additional interception."

State law allows a wiretap to run for up to 30 days, but a judge can grant an extension.

Court documents show the first wiretap was approved on Jan. 10 and ran to Feb. 4, the day a car dealer gave Laci Peterson's Land Rover to her family. Scott Peterson had traded the vehicle in toward the purchase of the Dodge truck.

Also Feb. 4, Frey phoned Peterson at 9:20 p.m. and again at 10:02 p.m.; the second call lasted 15 minutes. She then phoned Bueh- ler and spoke for 23 minutes -- the last of four calls to the detective that day. At 11:19 p.m., she called Peterson back and spoke for two minutes........

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Fresno attorney promotes Peterson story

Fresno attorney promotes Peterson story

His client in county jail alleges a conspiracy to kidnap, kill Laci Peterson.

By John Coté and Garth Stapley
The Modesto Bee
(Published Sunday, October 5, 2003, 5:29 AM)

A Fresno attorney has been making the interview rounds with a story that his client has crucial information linking Scott Peterson to the murder of his wife and unborn son.

During the last two weeks Frank Muna has appeared on ABC's "Good Morning America" and Fox News' "On the Record" with Greta Van Susteren and been interviewed by the press about his version of the Laci and Conner Peterson deaths -- that they were victims of one of several contract kidnap and killing scenarios.

Little information has surfaced to corroborate his accounts, and questions about his motivation have been raised.

Muna repeatedly has said his client, Fresno jail inmate Cory Lee Carroll, is not asking for anything in return for the information.

But Muna was in contact with tabloid news outlets to sell Carroll's story, two sources said. Muna called that untrue.

According to the sources, Muna sought more than $75,000 for the story from The National Enquirer.

Enquirer Senior Editor Charlie Montgomery confirmed his publication pays for stories, but he would not comment on whether Muna had contacted them or sought payment.

Muna said Wednesday he had not shopped the story. He said tabloids contacted him after The Bee reported the story Sept. 20.

"The National Enquirer made the offer, and we turned it down," Muna said. "This sounds more like there is some law enforcement -- some third party -- trying to influence credibility. We don't have anything to sell. All the information we have has been released."

Muna's information has come in distinct batches. He first said his client arranged a meeting between Peterson and two neo-Nazi gang members to discuss stealing Laci Peterson's vehicle for insurance money, but the talk soon turned to kidnapping.

The next week, Muna added to that account, saying Carroll heard Scott Peterson arranging to pay the gang members, identified as "Dirty" and "Skeeter," $22,000 to abduct and murder his pregnant wife. To this date, "Dirty" and "Skeeter" have not been publicly identified.

Muna suggested Scott Peterson failed to pay the money after he came under intense police scrutiny, and Laci Peterson died while being held. The disgruntled kidnappers could have dumped the bodies where Peterson said he went fishing to implicate him, Muna said.

Credibility was lent to the original car theft story because Carroll passed a lie-detector test administered by a veteran Fresno investigator.

But polygraph tests are not admissible in court because they are unreliable, and other parts of the story remain uncorroborated.

The identities and whereabouts of people named as key players in the scenarios remain elusive.

Authorities are refusing to comment on Muna's information, citing a sweeping gag order imposed in the case...........

(Excerpt) Read more at bayarea.com ...


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To: RGSpincich
"It could be that this whole Carroll/Muna thing is/was a con where the "mark" is the general public and the media. Somebody was counting on a media frenzy because of the lie detector test and the seemingly "Good Samaritan" testimony of Carroll."

You know when this story first came out my first impression was that it came from the defense....then I kind of fell into the trap of entertaining the idea. However, I could never fit this in with the other known facts (especially evidence that Scott actually disposed of her body). You may be right....concoct this story, somehow distance Scott from these guys, and viola..reasonable doubt.
201 posted on 10/11/2003 7:07:31 AM PDT by drjulie
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To: RGSpincich
It could be that this whole Carroll/Muna thing is/was a con where the "mark" is the general public and the media.

In my opinion, you've nailed it, right there. I can believe that easily; it is harder for me to believe that Carroll/Muna was in any way concocted by the Peterson defense, even Dalton. Previously, the stories they've concocted have been much more direct ways of trying to get Scott off the hook. This plan would be too iffy, IMO.

202 posted on 10/11/2003 8:16:43 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: drjulie
I was really glad when the Michael Peterson jury cut through the b.s. Just seeing that guy disgusted me. He seemed so devious, and I admit that part of my disgust stemmed from my belief that he'd gotten away with it once before. He has even won over the daughters of the woman (Ratliff) who, in my opinion, he killed. There was a lot of talk on Court TV about how "devastated the girls were." Well, I think those poor girls have been conned by this man for years. I think they're in his thrall. (I have no personal knowledge of Peterson and this is all my opinion only.)
203 posted on 10/11/2003 8:21:16 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: runningbear; Devil_Anse; Velveeta; Jackie-O; grizzfan; Canadian Outrage; Sandylapper; RGSpincich; ..
Oct 11th,ModestoBee.Titled,"Peterson Case Delay Possible".
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http://www.modbee.com/local/story/7577051p-8486270c.html
Scott Peterson's defense team will ask a judge to postpone his much- anticipated preliminary hearing, sources close to the case said Friday.
Peterson's lead attorney, Mark Geragos, was looking to push back the Oct. 20 hearing because a Los Angeles murder trial in which he represents one of the defendants is behind schedule, sources said.

After two weeks of testimony, prosecutors in that case still have five to seven more witnesses to call before the defense can begin, said Darrell Mavis, the Los Angeles County deputy district attorney prosecuting the case.

"We've qualified the jury through Oct. 31, and that's what we're sticking by," Mavis said Friday.

A formal motion to delay Peterson's double-murder hearing had not been filed as of Friday in Stanislaus County Superior Court.

Court Executive Officer Michael Tozzi said there was a "strong likelihood" a request to reschedule will be made at a procedural hearing Friday.

The defense is seeking to push the hearing to Oct. 27, a source said.

Modesto attorney Kirk McAllister, part of the Peterson defense team, said Friday that a gag order in the case prevented him from commenting. Geragos could not be reached.

It was unclear how Judge Al Girolami would rule on a request to delay the hearing, where prosecutors are expected to lay out some of their evidence against the 30-year-old fertilizer salesman.

Peterson is charged with two counts of murder in the deaths of his wife, Laci, and the couple's son, Conner. Laci Peterson was almost eight months pregnant at the time prosecutors contend she was killed.

Girolami previously had said a Sept. 9 date for the preliminary hearing was "set in stone." After pushing that to Oct. 20, the judge said, "It will be highly unlikely that it will be continued again."

But a defense request could be difficult to turn down because of delays in the Los Angeles murder trial of Karen Terteryan, 21, and Rafael Gevorgyan, 18, alleged members of an Armenian gang.

Prosecutors contend that Terteryan and Gevorgyan fatally beat and stabbed a high school senior, Raul Aguirre, when he intervened in a fight between the defendants and his friend.

Geragos represents Terteryan, who faces life in prison without parole if convicted. Gevorgyan faces a possible term of 25 years to life.

The trial was delayed two days because a sickout by Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies engaged in contract negotiations left the court without bailiffs.

Regardless of when Peterson's hearing begins, it will be heralded by an army of television trucks converging on downtown Modesto.

Modesto police officials unveiled their plan Friday to handle the media crush. The plan calls for closing off a handful of streets near the courthouse, starting Friday night if the preliminary hearing proceeds on Oct. 20.

"We realize parking is a premium in that area," said Lt. Dan Inderbitzen, who heads the Police Department's traffic unit.

A mobile police command post will be set up and five or so additional officers will patrol outside the courthouse, Inderbitzen said.

A firetruck will be on hand when fuel tankers are brought in to refuel the diesel generators that power satellite trucks, officials said.

Television companies will pay for the extra personnel and equipment, which also could include a generator, portable toilets and garbage bins.

"We are not going to make a dime on this," Inderbitzen said.

204 posted on 10/11/2003 9:05:14 AM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: MaggieMay; Devil_Anse; Velveeta; Aussie Cattledog; runningbear; All
Hey All! I'm back! Sounds like a pretty sure thing prelim will be delayed again, huh?
205 posted on 10/11/2003 9:25:16 AM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Sandylapper
'Bout time you got back!! Welcome back!!
206 posted on 10/11/2003 9:28:05 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
LOL! Thanks for the welcome back! I'll never get caught up again!
207 posted on 10/11/2003 9:30:23 AM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Devil_Anse
LOL! Thanks for the welcome back! I'll never get caught up again!
208 posted on 10/11/2003 9:30:23 AM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: MaggieMay; Sandylapper
Okay, let's pin our hopes on October 27!

As someone here already said, Scott has more than one lawyer. If the lead counsel is tied up, the other should sit in on the prelim until the celebrated Mr. Geragos can arrive and save the day.

At least the probable continuances are getting to be for shorter amounts of time.

And just think. This way, we could see footage of Scott on Halloween! Everyone got their Scott Peterson Halloween masks? Hey, what color hair are YOU using with YOUR Scott mask?
209 posted on 10/11/2003 9:31:23 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Sandylapper
Oh dear! I've got the hiccups!
210 posted on 10/11/2003 9:31:42 AM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Sandylapper
For starters, I don't think there's been a peep out of the Muna/Carroll circus since you've been away.
211 posted on 10/11/2003 9:32:49 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
Regarding M. Peterson...Sorry everyone for bringing up this case in the S.Peterson forum, but there are quite a few interesting similarities between the two cases: accomplished, well liked wives; a double life (MP had was into gay porn and soliciting gay escorts); financial stress; & narcissistic behavior by the men. Poor Kathleen Peterson was working her tail off and supporting not only her creepy husband but his irresponsible children, the two Ratliff girls, and her own child who is in college. All the while MP is sleeping late, looking for gay hookers, and perusing gay porn on the internet. My heart breaks for the all the damage caused by this man. Sorry to rant but I've seen this kind of thing so many times and it is just sickening.
212 posted on 10/11/2003 10:41:52 AM PDT by drjulie
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To: RGSpincich
I am truly beginning to believe that the kidnap/murder plot is a red herring. It is an "alternative" theory thrown out there by others (likely with the backing of Geragos et al) to "try" to cause some doubt in prospective Jurors. I STILL think that LE has enough evidence to connect Snott HIMSELF to this crime through wire taps, GPS, computer records, and other things. I'm NOT taken in by the alternative theory UNLESS it is absolutely proven by eg: voice or video.
213 posted on 10/11/2003 1:17:06 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: drjulie
Exactly Julie, common sense IS the key. When all is said and done and all the theatrics have been performed, the Jury just made a common sense decision. In THIS case also, I hope the Jury will be a jury that will make a common sense decision. Common sense in this case absolutely screams GUILTY!!
214 posted on 10/11/2003 1:20:26 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Devil_Anse
I got the same impression as you did Dev regarding MICHAEL Peterson. He really does have a very COLD and DETACHED AND DEVIOUS manner about him. He appeared VERY VERY arrogant!!
215 posted on 10/11/2003 1:24:17 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Sandylapper
SANDY!!!!!!!!!! Where have YOU been??? I'm just NOT sure what Girolami will do this time. How many times can he say this is the LAST delay? He may just tell McAllister to take it on. If it's delayed for just one week maybe. Interestingly I heard some Attorney's on Dan Abrams I think, saying that whenever the Defense has a "weak" case, they try to delay as long as possible hoping that the public will forget the raw details from the beginning. Doubt that will happen here.
216 posted on 10/11/2003 1:28:15 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Devil_Anse
Guess what Dev - October 27th is my Anniversary. My 29th Anniversary at that. Sure doesn't seem like it's been that long. LOL
217 posted on 10/11/2003 1:30:16 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: drjulie
Nothing wrong with THAT rant Julie. Very true, every word. I see the similarities too. And obviously the Jury didn't find M. Peterson that appealing. Besides his very unattractive looks, his lifestyle, well p u k e!!!
218 posted on 10/11/2003 1:33:25 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Canadian Outrage
WOW Am I ever late to the party!! I even did a funkle!! (that's 5 posts in a row)!! BBS
219 posted on 10/11/2003 1:40:55 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: MaggieMay; Devil_Anse; Velveeta; All
I didn't know King had been gagged! You know, this Carroll/Muna thing could be a red herring, but I don't think so. I'm OTO that there is really a drug connection here, and some of the issues and questions we have are "under the gag order" for some really big reasons.

It only stands to reason, IMO, that LE and defense both have Scott's expense reports for November and December of last year. Without a doubt, Scott expensed his hotel room, food and entertainment while in Fresno, and maybe even the names of clients he entertained (we already know he was the last of the big-time spenders). Of course, he had to put down dates and provide receipts. This type thing, if untrue, would surely be "leaked". JMO

220 posted on 10/11/2003 1:45:31 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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