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Davis Bans most New Handguns
LEAA Newswire release ^ | 25 September | LEAA

Posted on 10/05/2003 10:22:12 AM PDT by marktwain

CA _ LEAA Weighs in on Davis Gun Ban

WASHINGTON, Sept. 25 /U.S. Newswire/ -- In a move signaling the sheer desperation of the final days of his administration, California Gov. Gray Davis yesterday signed into law one of the nation's most expansive handgun bans, outlawing new sales of nearly all handguns in common use for law enforcement and self defense.

The bill masqueraded as a so-called safety measure, by requiring all handguns sold in California to be equipped with magazine disconnects and chamber indicators. Organizations seeking to promote gun control and ban handguns deem these 'safety' devices, while firearm safety experts contend otherwise. The law enforcement community expressly rejects the "magazine disconnect" feature, as it seeks to disable the firearm during a magazine change, a potentially life-threatening result for an officer in a shoot-out.

Gov. Davis' bill also exposes California law enforcement and taxpayers to additional liability risk. The law officially defines guns lacking these features as "unsafe guns." As a result, nearly every single handgun used by California law enforcement officers will be officially defined as an "unsafe handgun," a notion certain to be exploited in lawsuits involving police use of firearms.

Noted firearms safety expert, and developer of the acclaimed "Safety On" multimedia firearms safety program, Michael Marks criticized those billing the gun ban as a safety measure; "This law does not provide one cent for safety education and training, and its requirements for mechanical devices whose value are greatly disputed, actually runs contradictory to the generally accepted principles of firearms safety." Marks added, "Even the antigun, Americans for Gun Safety Foundation, in its Universal Firearms Safety Rules, state that people should, 'never rely on a mechanical safety."

LEAA urges Gov. Davis' soon to be decided replacement to reconsider this ill-advised and misleadingly promoted law.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; bang; banglist; california; ccw; davis; desperatedems; firearms; guns; handguns; leaa; police
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I searched for any thread on this, but didn't find it. This is pretty big news. It is hard to believe that any police adminstrator will feel comfortable with his officers using (declared so by law) "unsafe guns.

This could mean a lot of excellent used guns coming on the market very soon for the rest of the states.

1 posted on 10/05/2003 10:22:13 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
And Davis actually thinks this is going to HELP him?!?!

BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!

2 posted on 10/05/2003 10:23:51 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: marktwain
As much as this saddens me.. California's deserve what they get for electing democrats as they have..
3 posted on 10/05/2003 10:24:20 AM PDT by Monty22
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Lighten Up, Francis!
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4 posted on 10/05/2003 10:24:29 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: RandallFlagg
OMG!
5 posted on 10/05/2003 10:24:50 AM PDT by Dog
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To: marktwain
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6 posted on 10/05/2003 10:26:34 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: *bang_list
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
7 posted on 10/05/2003 10:28:48 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it." -- John Hay, 1872)
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To: Monty22
I hope he is able to complete his term. California deserves Red Davis and Red Davis deserves California.
9 posted on 10/05/2003 10:33:44 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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It just hit me!

I wonder if Feinstein will be arrested for having an "Illegal" concealed handgun...

10 posted on 10/05/2003 10:33:50 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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I wonder if Feinstein will be arrested for having an "Illegal" concealed handgun..

No, she is exempt as being too politically correct. Anyway, the law applies to sales of new handguns, not those that are already owned.

11 posted on 10/05/2003 10:40:08 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: LibertyThug
bump
12 posted on 10/05/2003 10:44:21 AM PDT by Akira ("Experience is a hard teacher, but fools will have no other." - Ben Franklin)
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An interesting question, though, is does the law apply to revolvers? The article says "all handguns" Most revolvers don't have magazines, let alone magazine disconnectors! I have never seen a loaded chamber indicator on a revolver, and very few semi-autos have them.

It is much easier to just *look* than to add a bunch of extra parts and then rely on the mechanics instead of looking.

Maybe some legal beagle with internet skills can tell us if this last minute affront to Californians applies to revolvers.

13 posted on 10/05/2003 10:45:49 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Is anything stopping a person from going to Nevada and buying a gun?
14 posted on 10/05/2003 10:52:43 AM PDT by Husker24
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To: Husker24
Yea, that would be a felony.

L

15 posted on 10/05/2003 10:58:42 AM PDT by Lurker ("To expect the government to save you is to be a bystander in your own fate." Mark Steyn)
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To: marktwain
If the A$$wholes of the left continue to get away with suing capitilists in class action suits, why can't those for the Second Amendment sue government officials, police departements, gun control organizations in a class action suit for retribution of those killed because the victims were not allowed to possess guns to defend themselves. I know its hard work. I know that it might not win the first time out, but the precedent has to be set. We need to fight using the same rotten tactics the mobsters of the left have found to work for them.
16 posted on 10/05/2003 11:03:30 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: Husker24
Yes, California law forbids it, and Federal law forbids it for handguns for all states, and for states that don't allow it for long guns (such as California).
17 posted on 10/05/2003 11:04:53 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
If the A$$wholes of the left continue to get away with suing capitilists in class action suits, why can't those for the Second Amendment sue government officials, police departements, gun control organizations in a class action suit for retribution of those killed because the victims were not allowed to possess guns to defend themselves. I know its hard work. I know that it might not win the first time out, but the precedent has to be set. We need to fight using the same rotten tactics the mobsters of the left have found to work for them.

I have been waiting for the convenience store clerk who is crippled for life to sue the employer for *not* allowing her to be armed when there was an obvious, credible threat. This seems like it would be a slam dunk to me, especially with John Lott as an expert witness.

18 posted on 10/05/2003 11:09:02 AM PDT by marktwain
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I have been waiting for the convenience store clerk who is crippled for life to sue the employer for *not* allowing her to be armed when there was an obvious, credible threat.

Bump that! Moved and seconded.

19 posted on 10/05/2003 11:35:09 AM PDT by Snake65 (Osama Bin Decomposing)
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To: RandallFlagg
Guns for me, not for thee!

Molon Labe!

20 posted on 10/05/2003 11:40:52 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR ((R)nold's like a chrome plated Yugo - all show and no go! McClintock for Governor of California!)
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