Plenty of irony in Plame affair

Manchester Union Leader ^ | October 5, 2003 | Bernadette Malone

[livius]

Then let him be charged as such...

You may get your wish. Keep it up, Dems, and you'll live to regret it. You know you're wrong, you're lying, and you're also beginning to sweat because you're attempt is backfiring. Sweet dreams!

[cyncooper]

The problem is, they're all pretty unlikely explanations. Because nowhere in any of them was it at any point necessary to reveal Valerie Plame's CIA status. Not by Novak, and not by any senior level officials.

And I'll just add, the only explanation that is absurd on its face is the "Bush administration leaking for revenge" explanation.

[MissouriForBush]

What difference does that make? There are different levels/types of clearance.

You have a lot to learn...

[MissouriForBush]

...about a lot of things, judging by your pronouncements on a variety of topics.

I daresay you think you have fooled some of the people for some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people for all of the time.

[piasa]

"Senior officials" is very, very general. This can refer to appointed people OR regular bureaucrat types, partisans of any party or not, in any branch of government, executive, legislative or judicial, past or present.

The term Novac used, "senior administration officials," is less general, but still very broad. It refers to appointed people OR bureaucrats in the executive branch of goverment, but they can be partisans of any political party. In other words, in any department, NSA, CIA, FBI, Energy, Education, EPA, etc, past or present.

"Senior Bush administration officials" would be even less general, but still broad. It refers to appointed people OR implies bureaucrats in the executive branch of goverment, but they can be partisans of any political party. In other words, in any department, NSA, CIA, FBI, Energy, Education, EPA, etc, serving during EITHER Bush 1's administration or Bush 2's.

"Senior W Bush administration officials" or "current administration officials" is still broad. It refers to appointed people OR implies bureaucrats in the executive branch of goverment, but they can be partisans of any political party. In other words, in any department, NSA, CIA, FBI, Energy, Education, EPA, etc, serving during the time of George W Bush's adminsitration.

"Former senior officials" refers to appointed people OR implies bureaucrats in the executive branch of goverment, but they can be partisans of any political party. In other words, in any department, NSA, CIA, FBI, Energy, Education, EPA, etc, who are not currently serving the current administration. This could be people who served under previous administrations or could even be people who served the current one but left the executive branch of government before the reporter published the article.

What's the difference between a senior official and an official? Depends on a reporter's integrity, I suppose, or his need to hide his source's ID. What the reporter considers senior may vary from reporter to reporter. Just remember that the more senior a reporter implies his sources are, the higher the reporter's status. The more so if the reporter's sources have a tendency to be spot-on accurate. And remember that reporters can be played by nonauthentic or once authentic but no longer good sources too, sometimes even for years. (Not to mention that reporters are themselves partisan and may occasionally fabricate, as we saw with Blair of the NY Times.)

[Reb Raider]

Thank you Miss Marple. You were much more gracious than I could have been. :)

[piasa]

"Former senior officials" refers to appointed people... <\i>

Should say : "Former senior administration officials" refers to appointed people OR implies bureaucrats in the executive branch of goverment, but they can be partisans of any political party. In other words, in any department, NSA, CIA, FBI, Energy, Education, EPA, etc, who are not currently serving the current administration. This could be people who served under previous administrations or could even be people who served the current one but left the executive branch of government before the reporter published the article

[Reb Raider]

Oh CyberAnt, you know darn well Wilson said the lawyer is so they can see who all they can sue! Aren't you a believer?

The first few days this story was reported and Wilson was everywhere ad nauseum it was like watching a gigantic media orgasm. Even their faces were flushed as they breathlessly reported the "scandal". Every outrageous claim was reported as fact, obscuring the point of Novak's article--Plame helped set the trip up and suggested hubby to do it. Tenet never knew. Once he saw the information he chose not to pass it on to the President or Cheney because it was of little or no value.

[CyberAnt]

That's what Wilson wants you to believe ..??

[CyberAnt]

I think we think alike!!

And .. I think the dems are screaming for an "independent counsel" just to ensnare Bush in a lengthy investigation. It won't work. These people never remember that Janet Reno is no longer at the DOJ.

[olliemb]

Thanks--it still leaves the Novak and Millbanks info murky.

[piasa]

True- that's what journalists intend- otherwise their sources would be outed in a heartbeat.

[Grampa Dave]

altayann, you have just outed yourself on Free Republic like Plame outed herself.

Amazing how you Bush haters do that!

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for putting together this great time line of the Plame/Wilson revival of Yellowcake II!

[Grampa Dave]

As you know, I have posting for awhile, asking when the link between Weasely Clark and Wilson would be posted.

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for posting the name of Alan Foley.

This recent retiree @ the Farm may be the missing link of how Wilson ended up in Niger.

I did a Yahoo advanced search on Foley. He has been a favorite of the left wing maggots involved in pushing Yellowcake Scam II since July. Below is the link to that search. What is interesting is how all of the left wingers started quoting/citing him to damn the so called unknown administration "Bigfoot"!

Foley's involvement shows that this was probably a well planned "wet" operation on the part of the CIA's left wing to discredit GW, Cheney and others from early this year.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?x=op&va=Alan+Foley+CIA&va_vt=any&vst=0&vd=all&fl=0&ei=UTF-8&vm=p&n=20

The left wing maggots had no problem of printing articles with Foley's name in them and quote "exposing his role in the Agency"!

[Miss Marple]

It is hilarious to me that you think you have trumped me by citing Bill Kristol and Chuck Hagel.

Anyone who knows me on this forum knows that I think Bill Kristol is a mole for the Rats! Chuck Hagel is a McCain wannabee.

Bwahahahahaha! I will now go read the rest of your expectedly laughable response.

[Grampa Dave]

Actually Plame's boss, Alan Foley, the recent retiree, at the farm probably planned/approved this "wet" operation to harm our administration.

Plame and Wilson were probably in on this "wet" operation from the beginning. We are starting to find out about their long time DNC connections and in particuliar the bent one, Bubba Clintoon.

[Grampa Dave]

You have outed a DNC mole here on Free Republic who is part of this whole farce set up by Plame's recently retired boss at the CIA, Alan Foley.

Tenet knew nothing of this set up until after it was over.

This was a "wet" op created by Foley/Plame/Wilson to discredit our administration.

Foley has been a hero of the left wing maggots who have setting up Yellowcake II since Yellowcake I failed them.
Now he has resigned/retired from the CIA.

Yeah, sure you are a real fan of Kristol, the mole. You and I outed Kristol last year for his attempts to damage our administration. Hagel and McAinal are a pair of matched Rino Bookends who hate GW as much as the rats do.

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for this excellent "Readers Digest Summary" of Yellowcake I and now its sequel,Yellowcake II.

The first few days this story was reported and Wilson was everywhere ad nauseum it was like watching a gigantic media orgasm. Even their faces were flushed as they breathlessly reported the "scandal". Every outrageous claim was reported as fact, obscuring the point of Novak's article--Plame helped set the trip up and suggested hubby to do it. Tenet never knew. Once he saw the information he chose not to pass it on to the President or Cheney because it was of little or no value."