MCCLINTOCK = BEST HOPE, CHECK & BALANCE for CALIFORNIA FUTURE: CRITICAL CONSIDERATIONS

DIRECT POST | by R. Scott Moxley

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The Case for Governor Tom McClintock: Why progressives should vote for the most conservative candidate in the race to replace Gray Davis

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[tallhappy]

Hi Buddy.

For someone who came on here at the same time Scharwzengger started tunning -- your attempts at policing this forum as arbiter of protocol or etiquettes eetc.. is extremely questionable. I notice you do this on a lot of posts. You are always wrong, but even if right it would not be your position to be saying these things.

Get me?

By the way, what newspaper do you edit and what is your name?

[tallhappy]

Roar -- you are so ang-wee.

[GeronL]

I find it amazing the hate towards conservatives on this hate, pure hate!

[doug from upland]

On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being certitude, what is your opinion of the likelihood of a McClintock upset. Please, don't give me the McClintock rhetoric. Give me an honest assessment.

[christynsoldier]

very true, well said, always refreshing to see
your posts! keep up the the good work... the
trolls might learn something before this is over.

BUMP bumpitty BUMP TO THE TOP

[Rome2000]

His electability has been confirmed in that he has won repeatedly in a district that voted for GORE

Never won statewide, and never will.

[tallhappy]

On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being certitude, what is your opinion of the likelihood of a McClintock upset.

Who cares?

McClintock may lose even if we all vote for him.

It is better to have fought the good fight.

I cannot believe your advocacy of Schwarzenegger.

Incredible.

Are you unaware of the all skeletors in the closests?

You don't understand Doug. Some people won't vote for Schwarzenegger because it is the same as voting for a Clinton or a Kennedy.

Normally in a two part race that would mean throwing away a vote of some third party candidate polling at 1%.

In this race, however, McClintock being much higher in the polls makes it that much less of a throw away vote.

Some candidates are that bad that one simply can't vote for them. Last time for me it was Michael Huffington for Senate. Remember that? I was right. Think about if he had won? Arianna would be in power now to implement her insanities.

Voting for Schwarzenegger is the same thing this time. Can't do it and you won't either if your cooler head prevails.

Huffington ran as a Reublican. There was no alternative to Huffington. This time there is an alternative to Schwarzenegger, 20003's Huffington. McClintock.

I have no idea if there would be enough votes for McClintock. Depends on how many people who are conservatives decide to actually vote for McClintock rather than throw their vote at the liberal candidate they feel can win. Probably wouldn't happen. But that's the only real choice.

[Carry_Okie]

Give me an honest assessment.

I give it a probability level of 3 on McClintock and a 6 on recall, only because of the absentee votes already in and Arnold's apparently careful purchases of silence over the years (of which the out-takes from Pumping Iron are an example).

These allegations against Schwarzenegger are not over and will likely increase in ferocity in the next 48 hours. As I understand it, the love-child story is next. I doubt we'll see all the gay porn stuff. That's more useful as extortion to those who hold it at a later date. There are those who can pay more than Arnold can.

This is more than "hold your nose." Arnold says whatever a particular audience wants to hear because he's willing to do anything for his ambitions (as is demonstrated by the Mappelthorppe photos) and because most people are too committed to justifying subordination of their principles to "winning" to bother cross checking his statements for the uncomfortable truth. It's the choices he's made by which I evaluate what he'll do as governor. Arnold is a far worse compromise than most of his supporters realize. Read the article and then skip to the end of the thread for more evidence.

[Carry_Okie]

So says a Party hack from Florida.

[Hoverbug]

Well said C_O!

The dems have all but killed the goose that lays the golden eggs to the point that even the dems are kicking out a dem governor and the top dem on the ticket can only get 30%.

The people who "want Tom, but are voting for Arnold" are having their vote and this opportunity taken from them as easily as "candy from a baby."

Hb

[FreeReign]

The author writes for a Democrat audience. If you had read the article before posting, you would have seen that he said clearly that his intended audience is democrats, whom he is suggesting should vote for McClintock...

The authors STATED intended audience is Democrat. However, if you would note, the authors article is posted here at FR, that has an R audience.

Golly-Gee!

[doug from upland]

Thanks for not answering my question. That sounded like a politician.

[doug from upland]

Thanks for an honest answer. I see 3 as far, far too optimistic for McClintock and see 6 as too pessimistic about recall.

[Carry_Okie]

Thanks for an honest answer. I see 3 as far, far too optimistic for McClintock and see 6 as too pessimistic about recall.

Well I'd bet that the distinction is based upon the current state of affairs and not how things will look by Tuesday (whence arise my conclusions).

[WOSG]

If you want to get rid of RINOs, support Toomey to beat Arlen Specter.

In the meantime, the race is down to Davis vs. Arnold, pollwise. YES ON RECALL no matter what. I've come to realize Anyone who likes Tom McClintock best, go ahead and vote for him, but there will be h*ll to pay if we screw the pooch and let CRUZ cruise to victory.

Besides, Arnold winning has many benefits: It blows to smithereens the "politics of personal destruction" practiced by the left; if they fail on Arnold, it proves it can and will fail on George W Bush.
2. Cali suddenly comes into play in 2004. G W Bush re-elect chances visibly improve.
3. Arnold *will* work to fix the budget mess. For all his RINO-like social liberalism, he's got a Milton Friedman view on govt spending. He's anti-tax-n-spend and that is what Cali needs right now.

Lastly, I think Tom McClintock saved Arnold ... why? They would have unloaded this on Arnold much earlier and harder had Arnold not had a conservative rival. They knew destroying Arnold could have delivered McClintock, so they waited for McClintock to fade or quit - he never did.

The Davis smearers were left to doing this just before the election, exposing it for the last minute desperation smear tactics that it is.

JMHO. The chance of Cruz upset is larger than the chance of McClintock upset, and both are remote at this point. Arnold will win.

VOTE YES ON 54!

[TheExploited]

After Tuesday, Tom McClintock will join the Roman Empire, the Confederacy and the Soviet Union as part of history. He could have had a nice future, but he is finished no matter what happens.

[WOSG]

I was in the "vote for Arnold for unity camp" but the polls are clear enough that Cruz will lose; anyone who thinks Tom McClintock really is the better candidate, go ahead and vote for him.

I include myself in that camp.

But Arnold will win with the votes of many new and energized voters of the 'middle-of-the-road' camp, sick of the lockhold of the leftists on Sacramento. Conservatives should consider this electoral spanking of the left a Good Thing.

[WOSG]

fwiw, he'll still be a state senator.

[Quix]

Even if Tom McEgo's pride and stubbornness were not fatal flaws for a chief ruler,

he just

HAS NOT GOT

1/20th

the public personna clout

NOR

the political clout deriving therefrom

NOR

the demonstrated ability to

LEAD Sacramento away from corrupt politics as usual.

Such realities are just not there, regardless how much I like his conservative values.