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Immigrants Rally in City, Seeking Rights
The New York Times ^ | October 5, 2003 | STEVEN GREENHOUSE

Posted on 10/04/2003 6:26:15 PM PDT by sarcasm

Tens of thousands of immigrants rallied in Flushing Meadows-Corona Park in Queens yesterday with the hope of promoting an immigrants' rights movement that will capture the nation's conscience the way the 1960's civil rights movement did.

Coming from Mexico, China, Haiti and many other countries, the immigrants are seeking to persuade lawmakers in Washington to, among other things, grant legal status to more than 8 million immigrants.

"America is a land of immigrants; it was built by immigrants," said Roger Toussaint, an immigrant from Trinidad who is president of New York City's Transport Workers Union. "The justice that was extended to the immigrants of the past should be extended to the immigrants of today."

Organizers estimated that about 100,000 immigrants and their supporters crowded into the park, where they rallied alongside the giant steel globe, known as the Unisphere, that was the symbol of the 1964-65 New York World's Fair.

Cardinal Edward M. Egan, the archbishop of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of New York, was welcomed with heavy applause and spoke for 10 minutes in Spanish before turning to English.

"We cannot go on simply ignoring and tolerating the plight of our brothers and sisters," Cardinal Egan said. "Families are being damaged by cruel separation and in all too many instances shameful advantage is being taken of men and women in the work force who do not have proper papers."

The rally was the final effort in a two-week campaign known as the Immigrant Workers Freedom Ride, in which 18 buses carrying 900 immigrants and their supporters traveled from Los Angeles, Seattle and eight other cities to Washington and New York to press their case for immigrants' rights. The effort was inspired by the 1961 Freedom Rides, in which blacks and their allies boarded buses to help end segregation in bus terminals in the South. White vigilantes severely beat some of those freedom riders and firebombed one of their buses.

"Forty-two years later, the freedom riders of 2003, you, are going to win," Representative John Lewis, Democrat of Georgia and an organizer of the 1961 freedom rides, told the crowd. "We are one people, we are one family, we are one house, and we are not going to let anybody turn us around. We've come too far."

The rally was in many ways a multicultural festival, with salsa and reggae music, signs in Creole and Spanish, and wafting smells of tortillas and jerk chicken.

The demonstrators called for granting legal status to illegal immigrants, for creating more family reunification visas and for increased workplace protections for immigrants because they are often exploited on the job. In addition, the demonstrators called for an end to civil liberty violations against immigrants, complaining that many law-abiding immigrants have faced harassment and detentions since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

In 2001, the immigrants' rights movement was gathering steam as the Mexican government worked with immigrants' groups and labor unions to persuade Congress and President Bush to grant legal status to many illegal immigrants. But the Sept. 11 attacks derailed that push because the government's focus turned to border security.

Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio of the Diocese of Brooklyn said that the way immigrants have been treated was a blot on the nation's conscience. "They are often ridiculed, exploited and abused," he said to loud cheers. "This must stop, and this immoral system must be changed."

Church groups, labor unions and immigrants groups sent hundreds of buses to the rally, while many demonstrators arrived by subway and car. Chartered buses brought students from Brown, Columbia, Wesleyan, Yale and other universities and colleges.

Organizers chose Queens for the rally largely because it has so many immigrants from so many different countries and is widely seen as one of the nation's most diverse counties. At the rally, flags from Colombia, Haiti, El Salvador and other countries waved in the light drizzle.

Marian Thom, who works as a paraprofessional at a middle school in Chinatown, said she came to the rally because, "We need to do more to reunify families. And we need better jobs because immigrants have the lowest-paying jobs."

Organized labor was the rally's chief financial sponsor because unions are hoping to improve relations with immigrants, secure better working conditions and persuade many to join unions.

"The struggle of immigrant workers is our struggle," said the A.F.L.-C.I.O.'s president, John J. Sweeney, whose father was an Irish immigrant. "We believe, as Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. believed, that injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

Critics questioned the effectiveness of the freedom ride and Flushing Meadows rally. Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a research group that favors stronger restrictions on immigration, said, "The people who would need to be persuaded to support an amnesty for illegal immigrants are Republicans, and busloads of illegal immigrants hijacking the vocabulary of the civil rights movement is not a recipe for currying favor with Republican congressmen."

Many employers, including hotels, restaurants and agricultural growers, support the immigrant rights movements, believing that granting legal status to illegal immigrants would spare employers the risk of illegally employing illegal workers. But critics of eased immigration rules warn that granting legal status to illegal immigrants will merely spur new waves of illegal immigration.

The rally's sponsors have not detailed what legislation they would like to grant legal status to illegal immigrants. But in a rally in Washington on Thursday, the sponsors voiced support for a bill that would grant legal status to more than 500,000 illegal farm workers and to illegal immigrants who have lived in the United States for five years and have graduated from American high schools.

The crowd appeared as a sea of colorful signs and shirts, that said, "No Human is Illegal," "Justicia, Amnestia, Libertad," and "Building Immigrants' Voices and Votes,"

Representative Charles Rangel, a Manhattan Democrat and head of the city's Congressional delegation, said yesterday's rally would move the nation the way the 1960's civil rights marches did. "Forty years ago we marched, we prayed, we asked for a more just America," he said. "Today you are making history. You are waking our country together."

Speaker after speaker said the rally should be the beginning and not the end of an effort, with immigrants stepping up their campaign for expanded rights and protections.

As the bus riders crossed the country, they held rallies in Tucson; Memphis; Birmingham, Ala.; Boise, Idaho; New Haven and 100 other cities.

Outside El Paso, Tex., immigration officials stopped two buses traveling from Los Angeles and threatened riders with arrest and deportation. The riders refused to show their documents, and after a three-hour stalemate, they were released, but only after union presidents, members of Congress and bishops called the Bush administration to ask that the buses be let go.

"People do want to see change in this country that gives everyone a fair break," said Maria Elena Durazo, the chairwoman of the rally. "I think it's a new day for the immigrant community."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; invasion; lawbreakers
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To: Consort
I agree he could do it. We just have to let him know how many casualties are acceptable in the hypothetical scenario of resulting riots, lootings, burnings, killings, ets....the campus riots, civil disobedience, a whole "60s redux that you have described.

How many American casualties is it going to take in Iraq to clean the criminals out and guard their borders?

Last week in Florida they rounded up about 50 or 60 illegal alien sex offenders. What about the children casualties there? What about the casualties, 13 or 14 of the illegal alien DC snipers? Policemen, border patrol agents have been shot and killed by illegal aliens. How many innocent American casualties will it take for Bush?

Bush doesn't seem to mind the bad press coverage in Iraq so why would he mind if he got bad press coverage for Americans?
81 posted on 10/04/2003 9:27:40 PM PDT by texastoo
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To: Age of Reason
In the early 50s Operation Wetback resulted in the expulsion of ~1,000,000 illegals...
82 posted on 10/04/2003 9:28:13 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Consort
And I don't expect any mass deportations.

Because of political cowardice.

85 posted on 10/04/2003 9:40:18 PM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: texastoo
I agree he could do it.

He really could, hypothetically.

How many American casualties is it going to take in Iraq....

Americans will accept casualties over there, but casualties here are another matter. I don't think they will accept it.

Last week in Florida they rounded up about 50 or 60 illegal alien sex offenders....

All of that validates what I described will happen. It will get worse.

Bush doesn't seem to mind the bad press coverage in Iraq so why would he mind if he got bad press coverage for Americans?

You'll have to ask him.

86 posted on 10/04/2003 9:40:52 PM PDT by Consort
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To: sarcasm
That's the way it is.
87 posted on 10/04/2003 9:42:10 PM PDT by Consort
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To: Consort; sarcasm; A. Pole; sushiman; virgil; Texas_Jarhead; Free ThinkerNY; Dan from Michigan
What part of what I described do you disagree with and how would you handle it?

I can't handle anything--I'm a lone citizen.

I can only say how I wish my country would handle this.

If the USA plays too rough about keeping the illegals out, then America looks like the bad guy.

So I wish America would instead persuade the Mexican government to do the dirty work of controlling Mexican citizens.

This persuasion of Mexico might be accomplished by refusing to trade with Mexico if Mexico doesn't guard its own borders.

By applying pressure to the Mexican government to police its border with the U.S., Mexico is made to do the dirty work--which I am sure they are very good at, not being as civilized as America in the enforcement of laws.

You know, if your neighbor's kids climb your fence and vandalize your backyard, the kids' parents should be responsible for controlling their children.

The same with neighboring countries.

88 posted on 10/04/2003 9:42:27 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Gallegos
Regardless of origin, illegal is illegal. Welcome to FR.
89 posted on 10/04/2003 9:44:02 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Consort
That's why I won't be voting for Bush again.
90 posted on 10/04/2003 9:44:51 PM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sarcasm
Tancredo is a small factor in the overall scheme of things--the liberal smear machine leaves him alone because it knows by himself in his own little state, Tancredo can't do much.

And so the liberal smear machine knows there's no harm in pretty much ignoring Tancredo, whereas to go after him would result in giving Tancredo national publicity--and that the liberal smear machine wants to avoid.

It's the same with many small-time rebels: The powers that be know that by going after them, they give those small-timers national attention.

Why risk doing that when so long as they are small timers, they will accomplish little or nothing?

But step onto the national stage--get big enough to be a real threat, and the liberal smear machine goes after your reputation all out.
91 posted on 10/04/2003 9:49:15 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: sarcasm
Our Rights are inherent. They are enumerated in the Constitution.

To have a country recognize you as a citizen, and grant you all the benefits of citizenship, is A PRIVILEGE.

When will these folks get this straight? I'm sick of this contortion of the language.

92 posted on 10/04/2003 9:50:22 PM PDT by TheWriterInTexas (Under Seige - MWCF)
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To: Age of Reason
Illegal Immigrants is the trojan horse of America
93 posted on 10/04/2003 9:51:02 PM PDT by getget
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To: Age of Reason
I think it's wishful thinking. Mexico is a neighbor but not a true ally and it will contuinue to encourage illegal immigration, covertly and overtly.
94 posted on 10/04/2003 9:51:02 PM PDT by Consort
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To: Consort
Anybody see a different scenario?

Yep. Arrest them and deport them.

Hb

95 posted on 10/04/2003 9:51:44 PM PDT by Hoverbug
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To: Texas_Jarhead
In the early 50s Operation Wetback resulted in the expulsion of ~1,000,000 illegals

I remember that.

But there was an earlier expulsion during the Great Depression, done to allow Americans to have the jobs those illegals were taking away.

And now I've heard those deported are planning to sue for being thrown-out.

96 posted on 10/04/2003 9:52:36 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: sarcasm
It doesn't matter if you vote for him or not.
97 posted on 10/04/2003 9:52:45 PM PDT by Consort
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To: Age of Reason
Tancredo sure stirred up Karl Rove.
98 posted on 10/04/2003 9:52:57 PM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: Hoverbug
Yep. Arrest them and deport them.

Anybody see this happening on a large scale, .i.e., millions of people? If so, when might it start, how long might it take, about how much will it cost, and how will we handle all the potential problems described above?

99 posted on 10/04/2003 9:57:30 PM PDT by Consort
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To: sarcasm
A spokeslady for this travesty - someone with a hispanic name and accent - was being interviewed on the BBC tonight.

The BBC newsnerd actually asked how she could possibly advocate for "rights" for illegal immigrants. She replied that it was an invidious distinction (my words, her meaning) to discriminate between legal and illegal immigrants, because illegal immigrants "contribute to our economy and deserve to be here".

The BBC newsnerd didn't point out the lunacy of this assertion, but at least he asked the obvious question, which is often not asked by "our" news media.

Hmmm.... drug dealers, prostitutes, pimps and "white slavers", mafia hitmen, con men, insurance fraud arsonists, and smugglers all "contribute" to the US economy (if you assume the fiction of the GDP, as opposed to real wealth creation), but no one except the more extreme libertarian types advocates legalizing their activities based solely on their alleged "contributions" (never mind their costs) to the US economy.

100 posted on 10/04/2003 10:00:49 PM PDT by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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