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To: Chapita; wizardoz
It appears from your message that you are insinuating that the NAACP was successfully "penetrated" by Communists.

You make a mistake that is common among ill-informed persons---namely, you never do the careful research to determine the actual facts of the situation.

Communist infiltration or "penetration" doesn't mean much unless the infiltrators can actually accomplish some objective.

Former FBI Security Informant (and subsequently Birch Society speaker) Julia Brown mentioned in her March 1961 interview in Ebony magazine, that Communist Party officials had boasted that they successfully had infiltrated the Chicago chapter of the NAACP. However, Julia then observed that Roy Wilkins (NAACP Executive Secretary) and local Chicago leaders "moved in and cleaned up the Chapter."

Julia was instructed by Communist Party leaders to "infiltrate" her local Cleveland chapter of the NAACP--which she did! But local NAACP leaders suspected her of being Communist and they removed her from the position of leadership which she had attained within the NAACP.

After Julia surfaced as an FBI informant, she testified about her time as a "Communist infiltrator" of the NAACP:

"I tried to be fair to the NAACP and false to the Communists. I didn't intend to harm the NAACP in any way. I'm 100 percent with the NAACP and I think they are doing a wonderful job and so does the FBI. They are aware that the NAACP is legal and is working in the American way for first-class citizenship for all Americans."

FBI HQ file 100-403529, serial #167 is a May 4, 1961 FBI document which discusses Communist infiltration of the NAACP:

"The NAACP is subject of Bufile 105-18867. No information is disclosed that this group is communist-infiltrated or controlled."
16 posted on 10/04/2003 11:08:43 PM PDT by Ernie.cal
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To: Ernie.cal
I didn't realize that I had released so much info; must be more careful in the future!
25 posted on 10/05/2003 6:34:58 AM PDT by Chapita
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To: Ernie.cal
I think the difference between your perception and mine is not that I am ill-informed but that you don't understand what I'm saying.

You seem to think that unless people who are official, card-carrying, dues-paying Communists are also official, card-carrying, dues-paying NAACP members, the penetration has not occurred. That if one cannot find documentation showing checks made out to the CPUSA, penetration has not occurred.

Ideas don't work that way. Penetration and subsequent influence is revealed not in membership lists and money trails alone. It's revealed in attitudes. It's revealed in how an entire culture has been altered, radically altered. What do you suppose the objective you mentioned WAS? I'll tell you: it was to weaken the American ethic of work, individualism, and self-reliance, something that was just as much a part of black culture as white.... until recently. Blacks built entire towns before the Marxist influence crippled them and turned them into wards of the state.

Another goal was to foment class warfare. Since even the poor in America are well-fed and have a lot of the luxuries that would amaze a family in Vietnam, Communists replaced class warfare with race warfare, and have been doing their best to encourage racial hatred. Black separatism is very much a result of Marxist influence.

And notice how the word "minorities" now refers to Latinos and African-Americans, and that's pretty much it? Why do you suppose that is? I'll tell you why: most Asian-Americans, Indian-Americans, and Arab-Americans have escaped or emigrated from oppressive Marxist or theocratic regimes... they embrace the American ethic (unless they're Islamist infiltrators, another topic altogether, yet not so very different.)

But Latinos are the second tier of Communist influence, and have not yet suffered enough Killing Fields to learn to hate Marxism. Thus you have African-Americans and Latinos united under pictures of Che Guevara. Do you understand what I'm saying now?

26 posted on 10/05/2003 6:49:24 AM PDT by wizardoz (Palestinians blow up over the least little thing...)
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To: Ernie.cal
Oh, by the way, for anyone interested, Don West was indeed a member of the Communist Party, according to the FBI: http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel99/foia1130.htm
31 posted on 10/06/2003 6:57:13 AM PDT by wizardoz (Palestinians blow up over the least little thing...)
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