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White flag vanity: Will/should McClintock be offered a BIG post in Arnold's administration?
claremont salute to mcclintock ^ | Oct 4, 03 | claremont

Posted on 10/04/2003 6:25:30 AM PDT by churchillbuff

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To: Avoiding_Sulla
What an emotional, moving plea. I'm still voting for Arnie and I know God's Will be done.
81 posted on 10/04/2003 12:19:09 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: ElkGroveDan
There is no room for intolerance.
82 posted on 10/04/2003 12:21:40 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: churchillbuff; Sabertooth
It now appears that Tom McClintock will have the extraordinary good fortune of being merely irrelevant.
If Arnold had connected less effectively with the vast majority of relatively non-political voters who are disgusted by "politics as usual" on BOTH ends of the political spectrum, or if the Gray Davis "slime machine" had been able to find some more powerful dirt on Arnold, or if Bustamante had not been such a complete buffoon...
Tom McClintock's well-intentioned, but dreadfully misguided crusade could have cost this state an absolutely essential victory against the forces of darkness.
Perhaps Sabertooth is correct, and Tom can redeem himself by laboring successfully in the fields of the referenda, but in my humble opinion, he still requires CONSIDERABLE improvement in his team-building skills if he ever expects to be "ready for prime time" in any major statewide election.

83 posted on 10/04/2003 12:21:46 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: strela
The only "bashing" going on here is by your side.

This is not an issue of sides. I'm just fed up with the crap.

I'm tired of the devicsive rhetoric that has been replacing honest exchanges recently on this forum. To a point, I'm tired of the ad hominem replys that are becomming increasingly more frequent. Reply #65 above is an excellent example.

Support a cause in the affirmative but take the juvenile and banal comments elsewhere. If someone challenges a closely held proposition, by all means, return the fire but stop attacking the opponent personally.

Try issues and ideas instead of people and personalities and above all avoid pronouns like you and your.

84 posted on 10/04/2003 12:22:25 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: churchillbuff
It won't happen. Pete Wilson and Karl Rove won't allow it, even if Arnold says otherwise.
85 posted on 10/04/2003 12:54:07 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (A vote for McClintock is a vote for Kyle Reese...and a vote against Cruz.)
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To: strela
Its time for McClintock and a few of his looney tune supporters to be pitched out of the Republican Party on their collective keisters.

Somewhere in your childish temper tantrum, you might recall (pun intended) that McClintock's supporters are pulling eighteen percent in the polls. Can Arnold win the next general election on forty percent of the vote? Then maybe you shouldn't be so quick to kick us out of the Big Tent.

86 posted on 10/04/2003 12:59:44 PM PDT by JoeSchem (Schwarzenegger for Guv: Winning is everything, and character doesn't count!)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
Taking a break from the walk to read a bit, and what do I find but yours? Great post, thank you.
87 posted on 10/04/2003 1:03:18 PM PDT by truthkeeper
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To: churchillbuff
McClintock blew any chance of being anything under Arnold by not pulling out.

McClintock couldn't run for dog catcher any more in CA.
88 posted on 10/04/2003 1:08:24 PM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: strela
McClintock's political career as a "conservative" is over.

Absolute horse dung. You need a bigger telescope, too much distance between you and the events.....

McClintock has a hell of a lot of respect from *millions* here. Even the majority of people that aren't voting for him will agree with this.

Trust me......

89 posted on 10/04/2003 1:13:14 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: BlackElk
BlackElk,

Thoughtfull and well said. thanks!

Godspeed, The Dilg
90 posted on 10/04/2003 1:24:54 PM PDT by thedilg
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To: finnman69
McClintock couldn't run for dog catcher any more in CA.

Wrong.

No offense but some of you don't have a clue to what is really going on.

McClintock has great respect here, most that don't plan on voting for him respect him.

Bottom line, Californians are putting the political noose around Gray Davis's neck. It's historic.

Even if Schwarzenegger gets it, California will be light years ahead and better off with Davis gone

I noted your from NY. Be sure to wave as Gray Davis returns home to NY in total disgrace. It'll be just in time for the NY winter...

91 posted on 10/04/2003 1:36:37 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: strela
Thanks!
92 posted on 10/04/2003 2:03:21 PM PDT by AnnaZ ("How many times do you get away with this, to... bury [a woman's] face in a toilet bowl?" ~ (R)nold)
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To: tallhappy
Actually, unless we can recall Arnold in six months the career of the Republican Party as a conservative party is over. How about viewing it as the party of pragmatism and common sense, as opposed to a "one size fits all" label that no longer can be defined?
93 posted on 10/04/2003 2:22:42 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (New EIB motto - What Would Marion Barry Do?)
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To: Amerigomag
So all you want is a mutual back patting society, where no one challenges your assumptions?
94 posted on 10/04/2003 2:23:35 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (New EIB motto - What Would Marion Barry Do?)
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To: EternalVigilance
So was he inaccurate?
95 posted on 10/04/2003 2:24:31 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (New EIB motto - What Would Marion Barry Do?)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Who? Your chief researcher?
96 posted on 10/04/2003 2:28:24 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: strela
"McClintock's political career as a "conservative" is over. "

Sorry but I don't agree. You are being overly harsh at the realities of politics.

You can bet the two camps have had contact and, while I am sure Arnold would have preferred McC had pulled out, it gave the entire state a good teaching lesson of republican/conservative policies.

What could they learn from the hate mongers on the socialist side? Nada.

I think this will pull the republicans and California conservatives even closer in the next 3 years.


97 posted on 10/04/2003 2:31:59 PM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism: A failure every time it is tried!)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
So all you want is a mutual back patting society, where no one challenges your assumptions?

I can't understand how that reply was motivated by this statement

Support a cause in the affirmative ... If someone challenges a closely held proposition, by all means, return the fire..

Well, yes I can.

Try issues and ideas instead of people and personalities and above all avoid pronouns like you and your.

98 posted on 10/04/2003 3:26:59 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
How about viewing it as the party of pragmatism and common sense

Sure. One that gets 25% of the vote.

99 posted on 10/04/2003 3:43:36 PM PDT by tallhappy
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To: JoeSchem
You are so right. At the beginning of this recall it was said that Arnold and Cruz, the frontrunners, were also the two who could never win their party's primary. This recall is a fluke. In a regular election the conservative vote is essential to win. Those who wish to kick conservatives out of the Republican party should realize that they would never win an election again.
100 posted on 10/04/2003 3:53:34 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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