More monitoring of foreign workers urged

ASSOCIATED PRESS ^ | October 3, 2003 | Jonathan D. Salant

[traumer]

GAO: Homeland security agency must keep better track of H-1B visa holders WASHINGTON -- The Homeland Security Department needs to keep a closer eye on the high-tech workers admitted to the United States under a special visa program, congressional investigators said Thursday.

The General Accounting Office, the investigative arm of Congress, said the new department should keep track of when foreign workers admitted with what are known as H-1B visas enter and leave the country, and develop rules for how long workers who lose their jobs are allowed to remain in the country.

[traumer]

about time.....

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[Mears]

I thought American high-tech workers were losing jobs(I have a daughter that is one of them).

Why are we importing workers?

[RiflemanSharpe]

I thought American high-tech workers were losing jobs(I have a daughter that is one of them).

Why are we importing workers?

Cheap wages.

[traumer]

"If a person with a 'student' visa becomes an H-1B visa worker, the department cannot track this until that person leaves the country and then attempts to return under the new visa..."
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[Libertarianize the GOP]

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[gubamyster]

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[Dante3]

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[dennisw]

I thought American high-tech workers were losing jobs(I have a daughter that is one of them).

Why are we importing workers?

Because the fat asses in DC have no respect for you and your daughter. No respect for the work she does. First they shipped out a lot of factory and working class jobs. Now it's the high tech jobs under attack.

[GOP_1900AD]

FYI ... something currently being circulated.... may or may not relate.... note item "C" in particular... I view this more as a trial balloon than as actual legislative language ... core principles / Critical To Quality attributes for actual Bills could easily be leveraged....

ACTION PLAN TO PROSECUTE INDUSTRIAL TREASON AND ESPIONAGE

27 AUG 2003

THE FOUNDERS OF THE NEW ALLIANCE

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THE CORPORATE US NATIONAL RESPONSIBILITY ACT OF 2003

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Given:

* The various strikes against the West and our allies, including the EP-3 attack, 9/11 and others, it has become abundantly clear to truly discerning analysts that massive conflict between the Trans-Asian Axis and ourselves, as described by such authors as Jan Sejna, Anatoliy Golitsyn, J.R. Nyquist, Yossef Bodansky, Col. Lunev, and Dr. Alexandr Nemets, is inevitable.

* That in addition to overt threats posed by terrorism and WMD against the West and allies, there are dangerous behaviors that we, in the West and truly allied nations, theoretically have ultimate control over. What we are specifically referring to are behaviors demonstrated by certain corporations based in the US, or operating in the US, which, ultimately, based on the observation in the first paragraph, serve to undermine the security of the West and our allies.

* That certain corporations have, for some years, done, and continue at present, to do, the following things:

A. Sell dual use items and technologies to customers in nation states whose goals include the destruction of the West and our allies.

B. Conduct operations in nations whose goals include the destruction of the West and our allies.

C. Recruit, hire and employ citizens of nations whose goals include the destruction of the West and our allies, both for assignments in their own nations, and, in the West and allied nations.

D. Source supplies and services from nations whose goals include the destruction of the West and our allies.

* That Based on the apparent geopolitical timbre of the times, these behaviors not only constitute a long term threat, due to the likely future supply and business interruptions, of corporations themselves, but may actually constitute treason, espionage and violation of the Patriot Act, among other statutes.

We set forth the motion that:

In order to prevent any further damage to Homeland Security, the following explicit actions shall be mandatory for all US based corporations, and, foreign based corporations' US subsidiaries, under penalty of prosecution via the provisions of the Patriot Act and Treason Act:

1. All employees of corporations based in or operating in the USA and abroad shall be thoroughly investigated by the FBI, US Attorney, Homeland Security, and others as applicable, for treason, espionage and terrorist activity or support. This must include all managers and executives in order to be maximally effective.

2. All operations in, export to and sourcing from, the following nation states shall be ended or proscribed by no later than January 2, 2004:
* The People's Republic of China
* Russia and other former Soviet states
* The Democratic People's Republic of Korea
* Laos
* Vietnam
* Myanmar
* Bangladesh
* Pakistan
* Iran
* Syria
* Sudan
* Zimbabwe
* South Africa
* Angola
* Brazil
* Venezuela
* Cuba
* Libya

3.Focussed investigations shall be made by the CIA and DIA regarding corporate operations involving Moscow Center for SPARC Technology (nee "Elbrus Computer") in Russia, the Russian government and governments of Soviet states, the government and army of the PRC (and companies partly held by them) as well as the government of Pakistan.

4.Aggressive prosecution shall be set forth, for any crimes described herein, of employees, management, executives, partners, board members and others having specific relationships with offending firms.

We surmise that only by taking aggressive action in these regards may we prevent further compromise of our Homeland Security and our position in coming military conflicts.

The penalty for violation of this act, applicable to responsible leaders, key decision makers and applicable authorities in corporations meeting the criteria set forth herein, shall be a minimum fine of US $ 1,000,000,000 and 50 years in Federal maximum security prison and shall not be limited up to and including death.

[harpseal]

Ping on or off let me know

[sixmil]

Corporations are taking control of our gov't and so far we are going along with them. Some of these corporate types are so short sighted that they believe that driving US workers into the ground will improve their bottom line. I say short sighted because they forget that their workers are also their customers. So, they make it easy for themselves to make money by getting subsidies and favorable legislation from the gov't, but this is a zero sum game since these corporate gains come at the cost of workers. This system will work as long as things aren't too bad for too long. Eventually people will wake up and realize that businessmen are worse governors than lawyers.

[Regulator]

Personally, I love this proposed law.

And realistically, it has a snowball's chance in hell of surviving.

But the mere proposal of it might be enough to shake the ground underneath some people.

[GOP_1900AD]

Writing in generalities - The typical business leader in 1945: Unabashedly Right leaning Conservative, educated broadly include good old time religion, raised by a normal two parent family, a military veteran, fiercely nationalistic and pro-USA, a pillar of the community, upright and law abiding. The typical business leader in 2003: Moderate to Lefitst, irreligious or a new ager, raised at best by a disfunctional two parent family (with substantial rebellion against parental authority by the children), no miltary service or if so only in the reserves with no combat experience, internationalist or globalist polity and economic view point, detached from the community living an isolated lifestyle in a gated community more in tune with what is on the satellite dish than 1 mile away, morally bankrupt / moral relativist law breaker, used or still does take illegal drugs, went to school at one of the places where Communist peacenickism was the institutional norm, believes in innate superiority in all respects Vs most others in the world. [BTW - I am not unemployed, in fact, just two minutes ago I was participating in corporate executive decision making - I know well about what I write...].

[Cobra Scott]

We could start with the Canadians and Mexicans.

Nafta allows them to stay and visit even when they lose their H1 visa. They can't work of course, unless they find another H1 sponser. But they needn't leave either.

[GOP_1900AD]

We need to apply pressure and keep it on. Meanwhile, learning our lessons from how the Gramsican Left have managed to undermine us from within, setting the stage for at least some of our current ills, we need to get animalistic about obtaining and applying influence - in the schools, universities, churches, corporations and naturally in government. Leading by example clearly plays a role. The nice thing is, whereas, the post WW-II to 9/11/2001 liberal ways of leading and living do not work anymore, and will be utterly despised by 2100 AD, our way will lead more and more, and will be unquestionably in control by then if not before.

[GOP_1900AD]

One of many typos (sorry not to correct them all...) but a key one... "Gramsican" s/b "Gramscian!"

[WilliamofCarmichael]

Corporations and Indian-US body shops are way ahead of H1B. So, what about L-1s? I believe many L-1s are actually employees of sub contractors of the American corporations. I'll defer to the experts.

The department told the GAO that it is in the process of changing the systems used to track the foreign workers.

Guess who is changing the systems (I bet)? :>)

On a real serious matter I ran across another government report about national security issues of exporting technology. While there are some rules for exporting technology there appears to few rules for using H1B workers where they acquire knowledge that effectively transfer forbidden technology when the workers return to their home countries.

[GOP_1900AD]

I believe you to be correct on both counts. Homeland Security should be labelled asleep at the switch if they fail to adequately address both of your points. Here's a fact - among L1s doing IT work in the USA are hardened anti American pro ChiCOM types, not only from the PRC, but from amongst the Chinese ethnic groups living in other Asian countries. We ought to be worried.

[Paul Ross]

Bump. Good list.