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Bush aides anger GOP lawmakers on consular IDs
Washington Times ^ | 10-02-03

Posted on 10/02/2003 7:02:21 AM PDT by Brian S

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:40:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Brian S
Carl Rove strikes again!! Like when he told Tancredo of Colorado that the White House was running someone against him in the Republican primary because he support protecting our borders and cutting down on illegal aliens and restructuring immigration policies.

That didn't fit in with Rove's views either. I was secretly hoping that the recent Wilson scandal flushes Rove oout of the White House. Along with Colon Powell, Rove is one of Bush's worst choices.
41 posted on 10/02/2003 11:05:49 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: Brian S
A gutless wonder as usual........
42 posted on 10/02/2003 11:08:56 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan (A vote for McClintock is a vote for Kyle Reese...and a vote against Cruz.)
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To: MissAmericanPie
Bush has removed any doubt about what his administration will go down in history as. Tell me again how he is better than Clinton/Gore? I forget

The War on Terror, and despite my disappointment in the President's handling of Illegals thus far, that's still the biggest issue on the table, for me.


43 posted on 10/02/2003 11:10:53 AM PDT by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: Sabertooth
The WOT eh? That is one of the main reasons he doesn't have my vote. I don't vote for people who count on the fact that I have no where else to go. Who can put together a staggeringly successful war in the Middle East yet attempt to con me that nothing can be done about our own sovereignty and borders.

Anyone who attempts to do that must have a very destructive agenda for my country, in my opinion.
44 posted on 10/02/2003 11:42:45 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Sabertooth
Here is, payed for with your tax dollars, concurrance prominantly displayed on the website of the
United States Embassy in Mexico

(Highlights - mine)

Your govt tax dollars used seditiously politically pander to illegals and dual citizens, advertizing "come to America" for goodies like education and health benefits. Vote Bush!

This is sickening.

Sedition.

45 posted on 10/02/2003 11:45:37 AM PDT by flamefront (To the victor go the oils. No oil or oil-money for islamofascist weapons of mass annihilation.)
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To: Brian S; B Knotts; RiflemanSharpe; Lijahsbubbe; Walkin Man; Retired COB; FreePaul; Sir Gawain; ...
The use of personal ID's in America is alarming.

Why, this is remimiscent of fascistic, repressive regimes who selctively identified people to set them apart.

This is not the way the United States of America is supposed to act.

Liberals have long been opposed to ID's for these very reasons.

Liberal even oppose using ID cards at voting places.

Where is the ACLU? They should be vigorously opposing the use of matricular consular cards.

Call and write Bush and your US reps. America should not mimic the practices of fascistic, repressive regimes by setting indiviuals apart and classifying them with ID's.

46 posted on 10/02/2003 12:04:18 PM PDT by Liz
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To: MissAmericanPie
"Bush has removed any doubt about what his administration will go down in history as. Tell me again how he is better than Clinton/Gore? I forget." - MissAmericanPie

Presidency of George W. Bush --the first 30 months

 

Killed the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty.

Killed U.S. involvement in the International Criminal Court.

Killed the U.S. - CCCP ABM Treaty that was preventing the U.S. from deploying our ABM defenses.

Reversed Clinton's move to strike Reagan's anti-abortion Mexico Policy.

Killed Clinton's CO2 rules that were choking off all of the electricity surplus to California.

Killed Clinton's "ergonomic" rules that OSHA was about to implement; rules that would have shut down every home business in America.

Passed 2 tax cuts----1 of which was the largest Dollar value tax cut in history

Pushed through TWO raises for our military.

Increased Defense Dept funding which had deteriorated during the previous 8 years

Signed TWO bills into law that arm our pilots with handguns in the cockpit

Currently pushing for full immunity from lawsuits for our national gun manufacturers.

Ordered Attorney-General Ashcroft to formally notify the Supreme Court that the OFFICIAL U.S. government position on the 2nd Amendment is that it supports INDIVIDUAL rights to own firearms, NOT a leftist-imagined *collective* right.

Successfully executed 2 wars: Afghanistan and Iraq. 50 million people who had lived under tyrannical regimes now live in freedom.

Changed the tone in the White House, restoring HONOR and DIGNITY to the Presidency

Reorganized bureaucracy...after 9/11, condensed 20+ overlapping agencies and their intelligence sectors into one agency: the Department of Homeland Security.

Initiated discussion on Social security and individual investment accounts.

Improving govt. efficiency with .8 million jobs put up for bid...weakening unions and cutting undeserved pay raises. Wants merit based promotions/raises only.

Executed a WAR ON TERROR by getting world-wide cooperation to track funds/terrorists (has cut off much of the terrorist's funding and captured or killed many key leaders of the al Qaeda network)

Stopped foreign aid that would be used to fund abortions.

Supported and upheld the ban on abortions at military hospitals

Signed E.O. reversing Clinton policy of not requiring parental consent under the Medical Privacy Act

Told the United Nations we weren't interested in their plans for gun control.

Set to sign Partial Birth Abortion Ban

Orchestrated Republican control of the White House, the House AND the Senate.

Killed the liberal ABA's role in vetting federal judges for Congress.

GWB signed an executive order enforcing the Supreme Court's Beck decision (re: union dues being used for political campaigns against individual's wishes)

Brought back our EP-3 intel plane and crew from China without any bribes or bloodshed

Started withdrawing our troops from Bosnia and has announced withdrawal of our troops from Germany and the Korean DMZ.

Signed the LARGEST nuclear arms reduction in world history with Russia

Initiated comprehensive review of our military, which was completed just prior to 9/11/01, accurately reported that ASYMMETRICAL WARFARE was critical.

Has CONSTRUCTION in process on the first ten ABM silos in Alaska, so that America will have a defense against North Korean nukes

Turning around an inherited economy in recession.

Passed tough new laws to hold corporate criminals to account as a result of corporate scandals.

Reduced taxes on dividends and capital gains

In process of eliminating IRS marriage penalty.

Increased small business incentives to expand and to hire new people

Signed into law the No Child Left Behind legislation delivering the most dramatic education reforms in a generation (challenging the soft bigotry of low expectations)

Reorganized the INS in an attempt to safeguard the borders and ports of America and to eliminate bureaucratic redundancies and lack of accountability.

Signed trade promotion authority

Committed US funds to purchase medicine for millions of men and women and children now suffering with AIDS in Africa

Urging Medicare Reform

Urging federal liability reform to eliminate frivolous lawsuits

Supports class action reform bill which limits lawyer fees so that more settlement money goes to victims

Submitted comprehensive energy plan--awaits Congressional action (works to develop cleaner technology, produce more natural gas here at home, make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy, improve national grid, etc.)

Endorses and promotes The Responsibility Era ("In a compassionate society, people respect one another and take responsibility for the decisions they make in life. My hope is to change the culture from one that has said, if it feels good, do it; if you've got a problem, blame somebody else -- to one in which every single American understands that he or she are responsible for the decisions that you make; you're responsible for loving your children with all your heart and all your soul; you're responsible for being involved with the quality of the education of your children; you're responsible for making sure the community in which you live is safe; you're responsible for loving your neighbor, just like you would like to be loved yourself. " -----this quote was too good to leave out)

Started the USA Freedom Corps

Pushing for privatization of Medicare and CHOICES based on current Federal Employee Health benefits program.

Initiated review of all federal agencies with a goal to eliminate federal jobs (review to be done by September 2003) in an effort to reduce the size of federal gov while increasing private sector jobs.

Part of coalition (Russia, Israel, Palestine, USA) for Israeli/Palestinian "Roadmap to Peace"

Challenged the United Nations to live up to their responsibilities and not become The League of Nations ( in other words, completely irrelevant)

Nominated strong, conservative judges to the judiciary.

Changed parts of the Forestry Management Act to allow necessary clean-up of the national forests in order to reduce fire danger.

As part of the national forests clean-up, the President restricted judicial challenges (based on the Endangered Species Act and other challenges) and removed the need for an EIS (Environmental Impact Statement) before removing fuels/logging to reduce fire danger.

Significantly eased field-testing controls of genetically engineered crops.


47 posted on 10/02/2003 12:14:30 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Sabertooth
I'll tell you why. Because Bush and Rove don't give a damn about illegal aleins and the drain they are putting on the economy or the illegal aliens who committ crimes and run home to Mexico to avoid prosectution.

They just want all the Mexicans to think they're nice so maybe they'll vote for Bush and re-elect him. That's all, simple as that.
48 posted on 10/02/2003 12:38:01 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: Sabertooth
The War on Terror, and despite my disappointment in the President's handling of Illegals thus far, that's still the biggest issue on the table, for me.

The two issues go hand in hand. As long as our borders are open, terrorists can walk right in and go to work.

49 posted on 10/02/2003 12:46:37 PM PDT by SCalGal
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To: Sabertooth
Bush has removed any doubt about what his administration will go down in history as. Tell me again how he is better than Clinton/Gore? I forget

The War on Terror, and despite my disappointment in the President's handling of Illegals thus far, that's still the biggest issue on the table, for me.

But Sabe, if Bush doesn't arrest, and begin rolling back the tide of illegal immigration, how much longer will there BE an America to defend from Islam?

50 posted on 10/02/2003 3:10:31 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: SCalGal
And as long as our borders are open, illegals can walk right in, and destroy our sovereignty, our economy, our civilization.
51 posted on 10/02/2003 3:11:48 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: Sabertooth
Bush administration officials yesterday angered lawmakers by refusing to take a position on illegal aliens obtaining U.S. driver's licenses and avoiding questions about its decision to recognize Mexican identification cards.

Boy, now there's a shocker. Dubya is the best President Mexico ever had.

52 posted on 10/02/2003 9:23:46 PM PDT by Pelham
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To: Southack
All of that pales in comparison to the minus column. What is in the minus column is staggeringly distructive and erases anything in the plus column.
53 posted on 10/02/2003 9:39:06 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
"All of that pales in comparison to the minus column. What is in the minus column is staggeringly distructive and erases anything in the plus column." -MissAmericanPie

Don't be silly. Building actual nuclear missile defenses is **not** eclipsed by anything bad that President Bush may have done or not done. Ditto for smashing the Taliban and kicking Hussein out of power.

The same also goes for killing the Kyoto Treaty on Global Warming as well as for telling the UN to go get stuffed over their proposed ban on International Small Arms Trafficking.

Did you miss seeing the House pass President Bush's ban on Partial Birth Abortion today?

Let me tell you something flatly, if you place anything on your list higher than being pro-life, then you have no business being on FRee Republic.

Two raises for our military troops. Two income tax cuts ( a family of four earning $40,000.00 per year now only pays $45 in federal income taxes).

The dividend double tax is now dead. The estate tax is dead.

About the only valid criticism of President Bush is that he lets Congress spend too much, but those doing the most vocal criticizing aren't looking at the other side of that fact, as in, they aren't looking at what Bush is getting for all of that spending (see above list).

And there are other things to consider such as our divided nation. Fewer than half of Americans voted for President Bush, instead casting their votes on at least two other, far left liberal candidates (Nader, Gore).

History will record utter amazment at all that President Bush has accomplished in a divided nation.

In contrast, some extremist ideologues will demand political idealism...a feat that is impossible to achieve in a divided nation.

54 posted on 10/02/2003 11:08:13 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Look at this logically, Koyoto helped big business, that it protected some jobs also is merely an aside in the scheme of things. The edcuation bill, a la Ted, the stoner, Kennedy is a defeat, not a victory. I fail to see the reason in flooding schools with illegals and immigrants then grading the teachers on how good a job they do raising the grade point of non-english speakers.

Wanna talk about the Farm Bill, aka the pork bill? How about vetoing allowing disabled vets to draw both their retirement and medical benefits? Maybe he considers that too compassionate for mere heroic Americans, when he can burn ten billion and throw it down a rat hole sending it to Africa for a war on aids. And how about those national monuments aka, stroke of the pen, law of the land, Clinton EO's? And not let's leave out gutting the two meager conservative victories that we managed in decades, the Welfare Reform Act, and Reagans getting us out of UNESCO.

Yeah, Bush managed in two years to strip those down to nothing, so you can imagine my laughter that you assume the meager things he has done won't be undone when we have a one party system.

The Office of Homeland Security is a 32 billion dollar joke when our borders are wide open. Tax relief is a joke when states have to raise taxes to the stratusphere, and soon, to pay for the drain on resources created by illegals.

Do you really think the Republican Party is going to survive when these illegals vote, they have already been given the nod to vote in a few states. Can the Republicans outpander the democrats, do you want them to?

So what happens when we become a one party system? Democrat. Have you asked yourself that? What do we possibly need with a liberal Republican Party? It's trashed.

Bush is waiting in the wings, eager to sign FTAA. Have you read it? Do you believe him when he says he wants to see one Free Trade Zone, meaning one nation, from the tip of Cape Horn to the North of Canada? Do you want national id cards? Do you want sovereignty for the USofA?

Like I said, it really doesn't matter what he has done, given the direction he has headed the nation in, all of what he has done that pleases you, can be undone in a heart beat. Do you really think we have seen the last of the ICC? The nation is in trouble, big time. All I see Bush doing is pouring gasoline on the flame.
55 posted on 10/03/2003 12:27:06 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Brian S
Bush will either get or lose my vote based on the administrations stance on this issue.
56 posted on 10/03/2003 5:27:43 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: Indict Davis
What's happening in California to Davis right now should have happened to Bush a long time ago.

Perhaps in the near future.

58 posted on 10/03/2003 11:05:34 AM PDT by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: MissAmericanPie
"Like I said, it really doesn't matter what he has done, given the direction he has headed the nation in, all of what he has done that pleases you, can be undone in a heart beat." - MissAmericanPie

Nonsense. The children saved by President Bush from being killed by Partial Birth Abortions aren't going to suddenly all be "undone" by some nefarious "New World Order."

Nor are our ABM missile tests going to be undone, either.

So you are upset that Bush signed a couple of pork laden bills. Fine. Just don't pretend to yourself or to others that signing pork is somehow so grotesquesly bad that it undoes banning Partial Birth Abortions, killing Kyoto, getting out of the International Criminal Court, giving raises to our military, cutting our taxes, and building real missile defenses.

59 posted on 10/03/2003 11:55:56 AM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: MissAmericanPie
Dear Mr. President: The Illegal Alien (I will not call them immigrants, they are criminals) Crisis continues to worsen. Many believe you are totally out of touch with the average American working man and woman and well on your way to being a one term President. Condoning illegal immigration is obviously and blatantly wrong on many levels. There are few select people who profit from it - while huge economic burdens are placed on the American Taxpayer. I sincerely hope that recent trends indicate a grassroots revolt to force the US government to live up to its responsibilities. I'm more than ready to join it! I don't vote for people who count on the fact that I have no where else to go. President Bush put together a staggeringly successful war in the Middle East, yet attempts to convince us that nothing can be done about our own sovereignty and borders. This is unacceptable. Please alter your position and support America and Americans First! Sincerely,

Letter just sent to the President.
60 posted on 10/03/2003 12:46:39 PM PDT by johnb838 (Deconstruct the Left)
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